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re: Will there be social unrest when monthly social security checks are cut by 22% in 2032?
Posted on 6/10/26 at 12:39 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Posted on 6/10/26 at 12:39 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
They’ll have to sell one of their houses. Times is tough.
Posted on 6/10/26 at 12:39 pm to dalefla
Even factoring all disabled people, and their dependents, you only hit about 11%.
A big number, but not the majority, and not enough to fix SSI.
Worker and businesses should be given an option where a very small % comes out of their wages to cover the truly disabled, but then they forego receiving any SSI when they retire.
A big number, but not the majority, and not enough to fix SSI.
Worker and businesses should be given an option where a very small % comes out of their wages to cover the truly disabled, but then they forego receiving any SSI when they retire.
Posted on 6/10/26 at 12:43 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
They will remove the contribution cap and employ means testing before they cut en masse. No politician in office will allow it to go awry while they’re still seeking to keep their seat.
Posted on 6/10/26 at 12:54 pm to Snipe
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At this point if you're counting on social security as your sole source of income in retirement you're likely screwed.
It's funny how they tax you to pay into it and then tax you again when you get paid out of it.
Posted on 6/10/26 at 12:55 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
they need to work harder and quit whining
Posted on 6/10/26 at 1:00 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
I would take this a lot of more seriously if we weren't burning money left and right for shite like Iran, Ukraine, etc. And constantly dipping into the SS fund to begin with.
Just remove the social security payroll tax cap.
Just remove the social security payroll tax cap.
This post was edited on 6/10/26 at 1:01 pm
Posted on 6/10/26 at 1:04 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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The lengths you people go to blame “fraud” and “foreigners” for social security mess lol
We have known since the 90s that social security was going to deplete in the 2030s
W. Bush tried to fix it and Morons killed the bill. If that bill became law, we’d be in great financial shape.
Social Security is in rough shape for many reasons, including all of those you mentioned. There is not one cause.
But the United States doesn't have an income problem, it has a spending problem. Just the $2.3 trillion wasted in Afghanistan could've fixed it. Or the trillions wasted on the next Afghanistan (Ukraine?) Or the next Afghanistan (Iran?) Or the next or the next or the next .....
Posted on 6/10/26 at 1:10 pm to Topwater Trout
quote:just mentally consider it an additional tax (which it is since it goes into a general revenue account) and you will be mentally happier
But you count on your 401k or other investments? you pay into all of them...i paid into social security i sure as hell expect to get what i paid into
Posted on 6/10/26 at 1:15 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Surely I’ll see all the money I’ve already paid in come back to me and they will stop collecting that tax when it goes away right?
Right?!?
Right?!?
Posted on 6/10/26 at 1:17 pm to Snipe
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'm planning for it to not even be solvent by the time I can draw from it.
been hearing that since jhs civics class over half a century ago, it's still here
Posted on 6/10/26 at 1:17 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
The annual threshold of the tax on earnings has increased significantly in recent years. I bet someone will save the day to propose a threshold of like 1,000,000 to better fund it.
I don’t know if I’d support that big of a jump, maybe?
I don’t know if I’d support that big of a jump, maybe?
Posted on 6/10/26 at 1:20 pm to NorCali
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just mentally consider it an additional tax (which it is since it goes into a general revenue account) and you will be mentally happier
No, I won't. Not when I've paid into it since I was 14 years old.
I don't depend on it but it's also worth having the conversation how political acts frick with the stock market so that ALSO makes our IRAs, 401Ks, etc. vulnerable to not being there when we need it.
At the end of the day, it should've allowed us to decide to invest that money how we saw fit. Instead its been used as a slush fund for Congress.
Posted on 6/10/26 at 1:20 pm to castorinho
This. Nothing will happen. I have heard since the 1980’s that SS would run out and I have planned accordingly. Just cut a check of what I have paid in pretax and I will even waive interest. I’ll call it even.
I don’t need it but could help my grandchildren more if I could invest that money in something other than the government.
I don’t need it but could help my grandchildren more if I could invest that money in something other than the government.
Posted on 6/10/26 at 1:24 pm to AUIH1
So should I wait til I'm 70 to collect or not??
Posted on 6/10/26 at 1:26 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
But we’ve got money for bombs, bullets, ballrooms. Billionaires, and arches.
Posted on 6/10/26 at 1:29 pm to BluegrassBelle
Sorry I forgot to add the /s/ for sarcasm font
Posted on 6/10/26 at 1:29 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Not gonna happen
Posted on 6/10/26 at 1:42 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
It's a ponzi scheme and they'll just up everyone's forced contribution into said Ponzi scheme.
Posted on 6/10/26 at 1:43 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
I am pretty sure when I was younger.. Early teenager maybe, there was a report that by 2014 (im paraphrasing. but it was a year that has already passed) SS would run out and people were all worked up for about.. a week then everyone forgot about it
But as for as the question, if it was a bunch of people in their late teens and twenty who this happened to I think there would be social unrest. But if it happens people will just have to unfortunately adapt. The cost of living is too high right now. Prices spiked during the Covid shite and despite hearing and reading "cost will go back down a year or two after everything is completely back up and running", but if everyone who receives SS all of a sudden gets 22% less than they have been then that's 22% less, per person who receives SS that goes back into the economy and some how that will be passed on to the induvial consumers. So not only will they get 22% less, they will feel it at the store.
I say this as a whole. I don't think where we are economically can go on for a long period of time and at some point there will be a crash that will separate the mega wealthy from everyone else and long term that might be the best thing that can happen, but who knows.
But as for as the question, if it was a bunch of people in their late teens and twenty who this happened to I think there would be social unrest. But if it happens people will just have to unfortunately adapt. The cost of living is too high right now. Prices spiked during the Covid shite and despite hearing and reading "cost will go back down a year or two after everything is completely back up and running", but if everyone who receives SS all of a sudden gets 22% less than they have been then that's 22% less, per person who receives SS that goes back into the economy and some how that will be passed on to the induvial consumers. So not only will they get 22% less, they will feel it at the store.
I say this as a whole. I don't think where we are economically can go on for a long period of time and at some point there will be a crash that will separate the mega wealthy from everyone else and long term that might be the best thing that can happen, but who knows.
Posted on 6/10/26 at 1:44 pm to SloaneRanger
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Maybe someone should look into how many foreigners are getting SS payments. Many without having paid the first cent in.
Agreed. There's also lots of natural born folks drawing SS disability checks, when they've barely paid anything into it, that really don't have a disability that prevents them from working.
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