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re: Will Smith slaps Chris Rock at Oscars

Posted on 3/28/22 at 10:47 am to
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
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Posted on 3/28/22 at 10:47 am to
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I'd be more inclined to believe this if the joke wasn't a throwaway, non-inspired, hack joke that wasn't even remotely funny OR offensive.


See, this is one of the reasons why I think it's real. Rock tossed it out as a jab knowing he COULD HAVE hit way harder, but maybe he didn't know about the medical issue which made it over the line as far as Smith was concerned. Like Rock said, "It was just a GI Jane joke."
Posted by musick
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Posted on 3/28/22 at 10:47 am to
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What does 1. Will Smith 2. Chris Rock 3. The Academy have to gain from scripting a fight over a joke about a black woman losing her hair from a disease?


Have you ever heard "any publicity is good publicity?"

It's been said for literal ages.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 3/28/22 at 10:48 am to
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Publicity. Did you care about the Oscars or Will Smith before today? What about Jada? Chris Rock?


Jada and Will have had a TON of negative publicity leading up to this in the year or two because of her coming out that she’s been fricking around in the marriage.

Them agreeing to this stunt when they’ve been desperately trying to repair the family’s image makes absolutely no sense. None.

ETA: Especially on the night Will wins his first Oscar. He’s literally upstaging himself.
This post was edited on 3/28/22 at 10:49 am
Posted by Havoc
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Posted on 3/28/22 at 10:48 am to
It’s clear to me it was real when looking in slow motion. After flashing a fake smile, a half second later Smith drops the facade for a moment and looks like a real beat down, broken dude.
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 3/28/22 at 10:48 am to
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Hollywood does stunts and has been known to stir up controversy since it's literal inception


This one, at least in the aftermath, is pretty different from your run of the mill skit at an awards show. You have to recognize that. I refuse to believe you don't recognize that. Go take a look at what is being said. The industry itself is reacting as if it's real. The people involved aren't admitting anything about it being staged. That is objectively unusual.

Again, believe if it's faked if that's what you have to do, but the way some of yall are sleuthing this thing ignores the legitimately unusual characteristics of the situation compared to past bits. Things convincing you of premeditation don't make sense.
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
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Posted on 3/28/22 at 10:49 am to
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So for your information, a critical thinker would explore varous options and weed out improbabilities.


Ok, so under one scenario, Will Smith loses his mind for a minute after a cruel joke about his wife's baldness, walks up to the host of The Oscars, slaps him in the face, and then yells for the host to keep his wife's name out of his f*cking mouth twice while Chris Rock seems bewildered and then stumbles over his words while trying to present the next award. That would normally seem unbelievably unlikely.

In the other scenario, Will Smith and the producers of the Oscars (who are known for being woke) ok'd a whole exchange based on a bald joke at the expense of a black female during which one of the Oscar favorites (a black man) attacks the host (another black man) to give The Oscars (a mostly crusty old white man production) a boost in ratings. So Will Smith would have had to ok a bizarre bit at the expense of his wife and himself that made him look like an unhinged pussy on the night when he was an Oscar favorite. That also seems extremely likely.

Scenario #2 would involve a bunch of people agreeing on staging this bizarre and unfunny bit while scenario #1 would just involve 1 person losing his shite in a moment. Anything is possible in Hollywood, but I would have to lean toward #1 being what actually happened.
This post was edited on 3/28/22 at 11:15 am
Posted by musick
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Posted on 3/28/22 at 10:50 am to
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Them agreeing to this stunt when they’ve been desperately trying to repair the family’s image makes absolutely no sense. None.


Two of the biggest stars and black couple has known marriage issues and you don't think Will "coming to her defense", j(ust like his speech about King Richard
and how he defended women, happened to be about) and white knighting in front of the world makes no sense?

This post was edited on 3/28/22 at 10:52 am
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 3/28/22 at 10:50 am to
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Publicity


Because winning an Oscar doesn't do that for him?
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Did you care about the Oscars or Will Smith before today?

What about Jada?

Chris Rock?


I don't care about any of them anymore today than I did yesterday. They get nothing out of me posting about them on tOT.

What benefit do they get out of this situation do they get that they wouldn't have gotten from a more "positive" stunt? The shorter question is why go with stunt that makes them look bad when they could have made them look good?
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 3/28/22 at 10:50 am to
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I am embarrassed at how many people on this thread think that this was not staged.


All it takes is an IQ above room temperature to know it wasn’t staged.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 3/28/22 at 10:51 am to
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Have you ever heard "any publicity is good publicity?"

It's been said for literal ages.


I'd suggest it may be a bit overplayed as an idea.

Hollywood is not dying on the vine because of lack of "publicity." I'm not sure how people talking about this silliness for a day or two really boosts any interest long term in what they're selling.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 3/28/22 at 10:51 am to
Scenario 3, is Smith planned the entire thing as a publicity stunt and there were very few people involved.
Its weird yall keep leaving this very probable scenario out.

Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 3/28/22 at 10:51 am to
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Two of the biggest stars and black couple has known marriage issues and you don't think Will "coming to her defense", just like his speech about Richard happened to be about) and white knighting in front of the world makes no sense?


No. It really doesn’t.

The Oscars coordinating a faux fight between two Black men, degrading their reputations? Not at all. Nope.
Posted by Tyga Woods
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Posted on 3/28/22 at 10:52 am to
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Have you ever heard "any publicity is good publicity?"


Of course. And it’s wrong.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 3/28/22 at 10:52 am to
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Its weird yall keep leaving this very probable scenario out.


it's more weird that you ignore this "stunt" does nothing they would want for their PR image
Posted by musick
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Posted on 3/28/22 at 10:52 am to
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Because winning an Oscar doesn't do that for him?


Shitty movie and shite performance. No one's talking about the amazing "King Richard" performance and Oscar for Will Smith's legacy.
This post was edited on 3/28/22 at 10:53 am
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 3/28/22 at 10:52 am to
At least we all found out the Oscars DO NOT have a zero tolerance for violence policy.

One bitch arse actor bitch slapped another and nothing was done.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 3/28/22 at 10:53 am to
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Shitty movie and shite performance. No one's talking about the "King Richard" Oscar for Will Smith's legacy.




I'm not seeing your point here.
Posted by Ingeniero
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Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 3/28/22 at 10:53 am to
Even an Oscar for a shitty movie is better publicity than lashing out over a silly joke when you're already the butt of every joke for being a cuck. It simply does not make sense for any party to script this scenario.
Posted by musick
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 3/28/22 at 10:54 am to
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Hollywood is not dying on the vine because of lack of "publicity." I'm not sure how people talking about this silliness for a day or two really boosts any interest long term in what they're selling.


They aren't dying on the vine. Hollywood just had one of it's biggest opening movies of all time in No Way Home, in 2021.

Posted by Festus
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Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 3/28/22 at 10:54 am to
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What does 1. Will Smith 2. Chris Rock 3. The Academy have to gain from scripting a fight over a joke about a black woman losing her hair from a disease?

While I wouldn't be surprised if it was some kind of publicity stunt, this is exactly where I'm at. Someone answering these questions. If they could be answered, it would make me rethink things.

And 40+ pages in, NO ONE has directly addressed these questions. They've just clung to generic "Hollywood does all kinda crazy for publicity". But no one will address the above questions with a reasonable response.
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