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Will Executor paying property taxes claims he now owns property

Posted on 1/5/23 at 9:47 pm
Posted by TheRallyPossum
Lafayette
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Posted on 1/5/23 at 9:47 pm
A friend of mine is dealing with will issues after her father passed away. There’s a property in Texas that was owned by the deceased. The executor, a friend of the deceased paid owed taxes on this property and now claim the property is his. She has a lawyer looking into it but is there any world where ownership of this property would go to the executor for simply paying taxes without approval from the next of kin? Mind you, this property was not listed in the will and that’s not even mentioning the forgery of the will by either the executor and/or siblings.
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 1/5/23 at 9:48 pm to
Is this land in a family LLC?
Posted by TSLG
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 1/5/23 at 9:48 pm to
Let us know what that lawyer she has looking into it says.
Posted by JumpingTheShark
America
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 1/5/23 at 9:49 pm to
That doesn’t sound legit unless there was a tax sale but that would be open to the public I would think.
Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
27310 posts
Posted on 1/5/23 at 9:51 pm to
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A friend of mine is dealing with will issues after her father passed away. There’s a property in Texas that was owned by the deceased. The executor, a friend of the deceased paid owed taxes on this property and now claim the property is his. She has a lawyer looking into it but is there any world where ownership of this property would go to the executor for simply paying taxes without approval from the next of kin? Mind you, this property was not listed in the will and that’s not even mentioning the forgery of the will by either the executor and/or siblings.


I mean are we talking 1/4 acre w/ 3br/2ba house or a sprawling set of land. Lots could come into play. This dude obviously had his eye on the property and used the internet to weasel a claim for property for the price of taxes. If it's in Michigan or some shite where houses are abandoned then fine but if it's in a prospering real estate area then it should be investigated.


How did you hear of all this? Is your friend local or does he live near the property?
This post was edited on 1/5/23 at 9:53 pm
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 1/5/23 at 9:51 pm to
Did he pay with funds from the Estate or did he pay personally? Sounds like he did one of those Tax Lien purchases. All the heirs have to do is buy it back for the owed taxes and the fees.

Then the heirs should get together and beat that dudes arse. And also settle the estate ASAP because there is a 100% chance this dude is milking the funds.
Posted by Tigahs24Seven
Communist USA
Member since Nov 2007
12111 posts
Posted on 1/5/23 at 9:52 pm to
Had a friend in Texas who lost a piece of a larger expensive property because the neighbor had planted a flower bed on part of it and had maintained it for x number of years unencumbered...the neighbor won his lawsuit.
Squatters rights are alive in Texas.
Posted by TheRallyPossum
Lafayette
Member since May 2016
50 posts
Posted on 1/5/23 at 9:52 pm to
The issue with that is the aforementioned lawyer has done nothing since being paid a retainer and for services for the last few months and any research has been done by the client.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 1/5/23 at 9:54 pm to
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Mind you, this property was not listed in the will and that’s not even mentioning the forgery of the will by either the executor and/or siblings.


It sounds shady as frick but not illegal, but I’m not a lawyer. Basically this person was good friends and probably helping with the bills and mail? They saw the bills and paid them, and slid in to ownership of the property.

Honestly if the friend is the executor of the will and not a family member, then it sounds like a situation where the family wasn’t very close to the deceased.
Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
27310 posts
Posted on 1/5/23 at 9:55 pm to
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The issue with that is the aforementioned lawyer has done nothing since being paid a retainer and for services for the last few months and any research has been done by the client.


Cut your losses and get an attorney that deals with that specifically. Also pics of said female lawyer to decide if she's a scumbag.
Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
10005 posts
Posted on 1/5/23 at 10:03 pm to
Seems like a conflict of interest.
Posted by MMauler
Member since Jun 2013
19216 posts
Posted on 1/5/23 at 10:07 pm to
quote:

That doesn’t sound legit unless there was a tax sale but that would be open to the public I would think.


And, if he’s the one who didn’t pay the taxes as executor, he would be liable to the heirs for major damages.
This post was edited on 1/5/23 at 10:17 pm
Posted by Iowatiger209
Ankeny, IA
Member since May 2021
696 posts
Posted on 1/5/23 at 10:07 pm to
Not squatters actually. This is called adverse possession. If you can prove you maintained land openly for ten years or more, you can win in court.
Posted by El Segundo Guy
SE OK
Member since Aug 2014
9572 posts
Posted on 1/5/23 at 10:09 pm to
Texas is a pain when it comes to that stuff. I had to deal with clearing up ownership shite for "family" members that have never even met and trying to get everyone to agree is a fool's task.

And forcing a sale and other options are really not beneficial in Texas.
Posted by Iowatiger209
Ankeny, IA
Member since May 2021
696 posts
Posted on 1/5/23 at 10:13 pm to
Differing states have differing laws, but I can tell you, in the states I have worked as a title abstractor, if this dude just paid the taxes, then, well, all he did was just help out whomever held title by paying their taxes. If he bought it at the tax sale, then most states allow for a 2 year redemption for the owner to redeem the sale, at 1.5% interest per month. If the sale is not redeemed, the tax sale purchaser can request a tax deed, but even then, he/she does not necessarily hold 100% fee simple title. There needs to be a quiet title action confirming that the purchaser now holds complete fee simple title.
I know that is a lot of info, but honestly, I don’t know that this executor has much to stand on. Also, should have prefaced this as “I am only an abstractor, not an attorney.”
Posted by SouthernChick
Member since Jun 2013
402 posts
Posted on 1/5/23 at 10:28 pm to
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if this dude just paid the taxes, then, well, all he did was just help out whomever held title by paying their taxes. If he bought it at the tax sale, then most states allow for a 2 year redemption for the owner to redeem the sale, at 1.5% interest per month. If the sale is not redeemed, the tax sale purchaser can request a tax deed, but even then, he/she does not necessarily hold 100% fee simple title. There needs to be a quiet title action confirming that the purchaser now holds complete fee simple title.
I know that is a lot of info, but honestly, I don’t know that this executor has much to stand on. 


As someone who sells adjudicated property in Louisiana, this is accurate. Someone can pay taxes on anothers property every year for years and not have ownership of the property. You can buy the tax liens through a tax lien sale, but there is still an enormous amount of administrative work to acquire a property and, even then, the title isn't clear and subject to future lawsuits.
Posted by Reubaltaich
A nation under duress
Member since Jun 2006
4964 posts
Posted on 1/5/23 at 10:35 pm to
In Louisiana, an owner has 3 years to 'redeem' the property that was sold in a tax sale. They will have to pay the taxes and probably an extra fine and/or interest and any other judgements fees.

A quick Internet search shows that in Texas, a person has two years to 'redeem' the deed/title.

OP needs to get down to the county clerk of court office like yesterday and get this mess straightened out.
Also, OP needs to consult with a good real estate lawyer on this matter.
This sounds like a huge cluster cluck.

BTW, this 'Will Executor' sounds like a real POS.



Posted by geauxpurple
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2014
12288 posts
Posted on 1/5/23 at 10:36 pm to
In Louisiana the answer would definitely be no. Paying taxes does not make you the owner of the property or give you any kind of lien on it. Ownership can transfer only through the tax sale process. A lot of people don't realize this, so many in fact that Jefferson Parish found it necessary to post a big sign in the courthouse explaining this.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
35289 posts
Posted on 1/5/23 at 10:44 pm to
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Mind you, this property was not listed in the will and that’s not even mentioning the forgery of the will by either the executor and/or siblings.



Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
55986 posts
Posted on 1/5/23 at 10:50 pm to
Contrary to popular belief, it is not a simple as paying back taxes to own property.
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