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re: Why would any sane healthy person vaccinate against a virus with 99.6% recovery rate?

Posted on 4/27/21 at 8:12 pm to
Posted by Twenty 49
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2014
20824 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 8:12 pm to
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99.6% recovery rate


Death isn’t the only risk of getting covid.

If a 45 year old healthy guy spends 2 weeks in the ICU on a ventilator, then misses 6 weeks of work and can’t taste or smell, but eventually gets better, he is in the 99.6% who recovered.

But if he took the vaccine he likely would not have been sick at all or would have had mild symptoms.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/27/21 at 8:13 pm to
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RobbBobb



Infected with TDS
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41887 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 8:14 pm to
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like the continual “long term side effects” mantra.


im waiting to know the long term efficacy and i think thats fair too

if this is something we will need to take 2-3x per year then we all are just spinning in circles
Posted by Evil Little Thing
Member since Jul 2013
11592 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 8:14 pm to
Chicken pox probably won’t kill me, either, but I still got vaccinated for it.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
93136 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 8:15 pm to
The usual suspects melting over the vaxx
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 8:15 pm to
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If a 45 year old healthy guy spends 2 weeks in the ICU on a ventilator,


If he’s healthy why would he have to spend 2 weeks in the ICU on a ventilator?
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
85369 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 8:15 pm to
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this is something we will need to take 2-3x per year then we all are just spinning in circles


much higher chance we get an annual flu/COVID cocktail vaccine than this
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
24975 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 8:15 pm to
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tgrbaitn08



Good lord you are just absurd with this. Do you plan to go to the grocery store EVERY week? Do you plan to go to an LSU game EVERY year?

Going to get a shot one random morning at a Walgreens isn't an issue. I'm not some guy who is insane about the vaccine but these arguments are just bad. You probably already go to a drug store every month anyway, one time you pull out your insurance card and get a vaccine. Big deal.

Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 8:16 pm to
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Chicken pox probably won’t kill me, either, but I still got vaccinated for it.


I had the chicken pox as a kid.

I still have some scars.
Posted by sweetwaterbilly
Member since Mar 2017
19578 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 8:16 pm to
There are a ton of people on this site who are super concerned about what other people choose to do. I’m 31 and pretty healthy- I got my second vaccine today. I guess I’m some sort of TD pariah now. I also get a flu shot every year. Guess I’m a sheep

ETA: To clarify, I support people making their own choices. I have friends who have gotten the vaccine and friends who won’t ever get it. I guess I just don’t understand why some people insist on shaming others for choosing to get it.
This post was edited on 4/27/21 at 8:19 pm
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
51451 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 8:17 pm to
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99.6% recovery rate?

Your math sucks
148 million cases and 3.1 million deaths. That's a good bit higher than .4%.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30018 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 8:17 pm to
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A further mutated virus us much more likely to be less dangerous, we can start there.


You don't understand basic evolutionary biology.

While true that long term (years, decades etc) a virus will generally trend to more transmissible and less deadly because that is what supports long term viability of the species. However, mutations are not "intelligent" any single mutation can be more or less transmissible and more or less deadly. The odds of each individual option is just as likely. So if a mutation occurs that is far more transmissible and far more deadly it will likely burn out and not be around for a long period of time but it doesn't mean that it couldn't have a large impact on other species like humans before it burns out.

While a mutation of COVID19 that is magnitudes more deadly is unlikely your statement that mutations are much more likely to be less dangerous is categorically false. Mutations are a roll of the cosmic dice not a conscious choice on the virus part.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68469 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 8:18 pm to
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The usual suspects melting over the vaxx


And the usual politards obsessing over masks and freaking vaccinated people. Jesus, I guess this really is Biden's America. Because he's made some pussies out of y'all for damn sure.
This post was edited on 4/27/21 at 8:19 pm
Posted by borotiger
Murfreesboro Tennessee
Member since Jan 2004
13732 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 8:18 pm to
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we still dont have two months of safety data


Wait, what? You can't be serious.
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
19209 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 8:18 pm to
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Why would any sane healthy person vaccinate against a virus with 99.6% recovery rate?


1) Because I'd rather my fatality chance be 1 in 100,000 as opposed to 1 in 1000.

2) Even if you told me my chances of dying were 0%, I still would rather not get Covid in the first place. A shot reduces the chances by 95%.

3) There is absolutely no downside to getting the shot other than a 24-48 hour period of mild flu symptoms.

4) No one knows the long term effects of Covid infection. "Long Covid" is a thing and scientists don't understand it yet. Some people report no smell or taste months later. frick all that.

5) Chicken has failed us with no COVID board.
Posted by Baers Foot
Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns
Member since Dec 2011
3870 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 8:19 pm to
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Wait a second. I literally put my life on hold for these people you speak of. Now they can get vaccinated or know enough by now to protect themselves.

Why am I now selfish for letting the people who really need and want it go first.

People like you fricking suck. I did my part, now do yours and leave the rest of us alone.


Because if the vaccine is 95% effective, we can still protect the immunocompromised that were in the unlucky 5%.

Leave you alone? Do what the frick you want, I’m not forcing you to take a vaccine. But you’re either selfish or ignorant. Possibly a combination.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
52897 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 8:19 pm to
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Flu is also deadlier than covid.


I don’t know why people keep parroting this BS.

COVID didn’t warrant the protracted shutdowns (at least not in the manner done).

But the fact remains the total deaths spiked more than 23% in the US last year compared to the trends of the previous decade. Stop pretending it was just a case of the sniffles, and that death spike was just coincidental
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 8:20 pm to
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Do you plan to go to the grocery store EVERY week?


Sometimes, but I don’t go every week

quote:

Do you plan to go to an LSU game EVERY year?


Maybe 1, but I won’t lose sleep if I don’t.

quote:

Going to get a shot one random morning at a Walgreens isn't an issue. I'm not some guy who is insane about the vaccine but these arguments are just bad. You probably already go to a drug store every month anyway, one time you pull out your insurance card and get a vaccine. Big deal.




Then go for it big dog, I’m not telling anyone not to get your vaccine. I didn’t start this thread.

I think people like you are mad because y’all were forced to get the vaccine for whatever reason and are lashing out at the people that aren’t forced and have a choice.

It’s okay bro, you get your shots and keep your job. Do what you gotta do
Posted by jeff5891
Member since Aug 2011
15905 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 8:20 pm to
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Nothing, it was a response to the question asked by the poster I responded to


*Let’s derail the topic with unrelated crap*
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
106089 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 8:20 pm to
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Why would any sane healthy person vaccinate against a virus with 99.6% recovery rate?


Is this where we pretend majority of this board is “healthy” and isn’t obese (a main contributor to more severe COVID-19 cases)?
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