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re: Why was the sinking of the Edmund Fitzgerald such a big deal?

Posted on 11/11/25 at 1:08 am to
Posted by messyjesse
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 11/11/25 at 1:08 am to
Nobody really knows for sure how she sank. One of the prevailing theories is that she was thrown up, over, and down a rogue wave so violently that her bow smashed into the bottom of the lake while her stern was still above water. There's a decent chance that the sinking and breakup happened so quickly that the crew were still alive for a short time at the bottom of Lake Superior.

I dunno man, when I think of ships sinking I imagine the deck flooding, the slow list, the gradual "slip away into the sea" kinda deal. Imagining a ship that size just being destroyed by mother nature in a few seconds is next-level shite. I can't imagine very many more terrifying ways to die.
Posted by Tall Tiger
Golden Rectangle
Member since Sep 2007
4127 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 3:37 am to
You are confusing the Fitzgerald with the Titanic. The Titanic was a cruise ship with rich passengers. The Fitzgerald was just a cargo ship with regular workers when it hit the iceberg.
This post was edited on 11/11/25 at 3:51 am
Posted by GeauxTigers0107
We Coming
Member since Oct 2009
10635 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 4:29 am to
quote:

You’re missing the heartbreak and pain and what a horrible person you are. Your OP was not in the least bit entertaining and was very much painful to those with family ties to those who died. Yeah I’m one of them. Tell me where and when to meet you and we can make things right. Anything else within reason solidifies your being a pussy.


Posted by Franticlethargy
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Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 11/11/25 at 4:33 am to
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Are you willing to defend your statement in person to people who had family on that boat? If so, please give details as to where and when?


You want to fight someone over something that happened 50 years ago? That had nothing to do with you? A bit over dramatic.
Posted by GeauxTigers0107
We Coming
Member since Oct 2009
10635 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 4:37 am to
I'm not defending the guy bit did you completely ignore this part?

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Your OP was not in the least bit entertaining and was very much painful to those with family ties to those who died. Yeah I’m one of them.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
31565 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 4:48 am to
As a society we were obsessed with transportation disasters in the 1970s.
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
21902 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 4:59 am to
still dont know and they prevent any exploration do to it being a gravesite. not the first ore carrier on the great lakes that split apart. people think the Fitzgerald ran aground before breaking in two.
Posted by TheFlyingTiger
Member since Oct 2009
4119 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 5:35 am to
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Are you willing to defend your statement in person to people who had family on that boat? If so, please give details as to where and when?


You want to fight someone over something that happened 50 years ago? That had nothing to do with you? A bit over dramatic.



Uh excuse me sir this is OT core values.

The where is predetermined here. When is the only question at this point.

I like the chedd'r peppers.
Posted by rockford177
Virginia
Member since Feb 2008
747 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 6:01 am to
Great summary! I would also add Gordon Lightfoot wrote the song b/c when the accident occurred, he combed the newspapers and only saw a small snippet of the wreck in Newsweek. He realized it was much bigger so he wrote a song about it to draw attention. It’s basically a song in one continuous chord. No real change up and should have never seen airplay
Posted by Lowdermilk
Lowdermilk Beach
Member since Aug 2024
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Posted on 11/11/25 at 6:09 am to
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Are you willing to defend your statement in person to people who had family on that boat? If so, please give details as to where and when?


Do they have SONICS in Michigan?
This post was edited on 11/11/25 at 6:45 am
Posted by nealnan8
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2016
3825 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 6:13 am to
It's right there, in the first line of the song- "The legend lives on from the Chippawa on down..."
Posted by LSUballs
RayVegas LA
Member since Feb 2008
39786 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 6:14 am to
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what am I missing?



They fact that you're a stupid moron.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
35323 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 6:47 am to
So, until Lightfoot made the song, it was something mostly relegated to mariners in the Great Lakes. Lightfoot did not know anything about the accident per se as he was from souther Ontario and living California. He red an article on the wreck when he was home visiting.....and it inspired him.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
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Posted on 11/11/25 at 6:59 am to
Rendering of what it looks like on the bottom.



Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 11/11/25 at 6:59 am to
Because what caused it to sink?

It’s pretty fascinating when you look at it.

It’s speculated the waves were so violent that the ship bottomed out causing damage to the middle bottom of the hull.

And it went down rapidly with another ship in sight of it.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
66814 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 7:04 am to
Gordon Lightfoot is responsible for 99.5% of the publics knowledge and appreciation for the Edmund Fitzgerald.
It's a hugely iconic tune, and one that uniquely tells a true tale of a tragedy, put to iconic lyrics.
Masterpiece.

Where does the love of God go when the waves turn the minutes to hours?

This post was edited on 11/11/25 at 7:05 am
Posted by ActusHumanus
St. George, Louisiana
Member since Sep 2025
453 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 7:06 am to
The song isn't about the boat. It is about the largest freshwater lake in the world, and the men who have the balls to work on it. With the nature of freshwater (less buoyancy) and rogue waves reflecting off of shorelines, those lakes are extremely dangerous. A ship (as with the E.F.) can get dumped off a wave into a trough and literally be snapped in half.
Posted by BHM
Member since Jun 2012
3828 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 7:32 am to
quote:

When suppertime came, the old cook came on deck sayin'
"Fellas, it's too rough to feed ya"
At seven p.m., a main hatchway caved in, he said
"Fellas, it's been good to know ya"




I still get a little chill everytime I hear that part of the song.
Posted by aubiecat
Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
5817 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 7:40 am to
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SidewalkTiger

Being an a-hole must be tiring.
Posted by ManBearTiger
BRLA
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22297 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 7:45 am to
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