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re: Why the hell are there gators at Disney where small children are at?
Posted on 6/16/16 at 1:44 pm to NorthTiger
Posted on 6/16/16 at 1:44 pm to NorthTiger
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With all of the money Disney has they could keep the waters in those lagoons gator free if they wanted to.
Yelp, just move it to Missouri.
Posted on 6/16/16 at 1:44 pm to nicholastiger
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I wonder if they would have looked a little longer if they might have saved him being so close to shore unless he washed back up.
Are you suggesting that at night, these folks without a spotlight would have been able to pick out an animal that stalks its prey by lying motionless below the surface, has a darkly colored body, and at best resembles a log?
I suspect that in a few years after the memory of this fades, kids will be right back out along the water's edge regardless of what signs are posted.
Posted on 6/16/16 at 1:44 pm to ell_13
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Actively searching for them and removing them.
can i see these records?
Posted on 6/16/16 at 1:45 pm to tigerskin
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tigerskin
On what date were they responsible for your brain damage? I'm curious to find out.
Posted on 6/16/16 at 1:46 pm to Y.A. Tittle
Just adding some other incidents to the discussion since gators and signage have been beaten to death.
And the overall point is unfortunately bad shite sometimes happens.
And the overall point is unfortunately bad shite sometimes happens.
Posted on 6/16/16 at 1:47 pm to tigerskin
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And the overall point is unfortunately bad shite sometimes happens.
Yes, yes it does.
Sorry for the hostility.
Posted on 6/16/16 at 1:56 pm to Chad504boy
quote:Best I got is a quote from the Florida Wildlife Agency who works actively with Disney. There's are specific crews whose job it is to respond to sightings and perform weekly searches of their own.
can i see these records?
Posted on 6/16/16 at 1:59 pm to ell_13
They don't remove all alligators. That would be impossible. They target larger ones and any ones that have been reported to be aggressive.
Most of the aggressive ones are those that have been fed by tourists or stupid condo owners that aren't around all year long.
Gators are not targeting us and are afraid of grown adults. We big and scary looking apparently.
Most of the aggressive ones are those that have been fed by tourists or stupid condo owners that aren't around all year long.
Gators are not targeting us and are afraid of grown adults. We big and scary looking apparently.
Posted on 6/16/16 at 2:05 pm to roadGator
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Gators are not targeting us
mistaken food source.
Posted on 6/16/16 at 2:09 pm to Chad504boy
Sadly, in this case, yes.
Dogs take the brunt of the gator attacks that affect humans in Florida. Lots of lost Yorkies and Pugs though I would argue that it's not really a loss to see those two breeds be gator bait. Duun, Duun, duun, duun, dunn tah dunt
Dogs take the brunt of the gator attacks that affect humans in Florida. Lots of lost Yorkies and Pugs though I would argue that it's not really a loss to see those two breeds be gator bait. Duun, Duun, duun, duun, dunn tah dunt
Posted on 6/16/16 at 2:10 pm to The Macho King
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I find it hard to believe that a billion-dollar company can't find a way to keep alligators and any other dangerous animals away. Reminds me of the old game Zoo Tycoon where I'd purposely leave cages open so that tigers and shite could get out and eat some of the visitors.
Its a man made body of water that connects to a natural body of water. It is Florida, if its that easy to keep gators out of the water don't you think they would do it? There is a bayou about 3 miles from my house and I am about 10 miles from the intercoastal. They don't have to put up signs for me or anyone else to know its not a good idea to swim in the water. They do have gators, but there is also water moccasins.
When I am riding in the boat when my friends are waking board, everyone has to just become aware of their surroundings. You look for bubbles, everyone has an eye out for the person in the water, etc, but even the little kids who fish off the banks know you don't sit right on the edge of the bayou.
Posted on 6/16/16 at 2:32 pm to ell_13
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It suggests that Disney didn't think it was a necessary. Just like they don't warn you that a bus could crash or the monorail could crash or a sink hole could open up (happens often in Florida) or that a snake could bike you or that a Lion in animal kingdom could escape or a teacup could go flying off the track. Disney doesn't warn about those things. But what do they do? They take precautions to prevent these things from happening. They did the same the gators. Actively searching for them and removing them.
And they would be liable if most of those things happened. Just like they are liable here, largely b/c they failed to warn of the danger. 'We didn't think it was necessary' does not absolve them of their duty, especially when they knew there were gators there. They will need to come up with a better answer, b/c obviously it was necessary. I bet they think it is necessary now.
Posted on 6/16/16 at 2:35 pm to The Macho King
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They'll be coughing up millions to this family as compensation, although that's nothing but a hiccup for them.
This......the only ones to benefit from this tragedy are the lawyers! Disney will settle and not let this go to trial because of the terrible publicity and the parents will never find closure from any purchases made from money paid for the loss of their son. It's sad all around except for the legal guys IMO!
Posted on 6/16/16 at 2:37 pm to Speedy G
quote:Is a state liable if a gator attacks while you're at a state park?
And they would be liable if most of those things happened.
And liable in what sense? Surely, you don't mean legally? If Disney wanted to fight a suit, they could and they'd likely "win". But it's not worth the expense monetarily or in the eyes of the customers.
Posted on 6/16/16 at 2:42 pm to FLObserver
Yeah, it's just really sad
Posted on 6/16/16 at 2:45 pm to dualed
You ended your subject in a preposition. Your argument is invalid
Posted on 6/16/16 at 2:47 pm to ell_13
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Is a state liable if a gator attacks while you're at a state park?
And liable in what sense? Surely, you don't mean legally? If Disney wanted to fight a suit, they could and they'd likely "win". But it's not worth the expense monetarily or in the eyes of the customers.
It's an interesting case where when you boil it down, this was likely out of Disney's control. However, they will gladly accept responsibility for what happened on their property and put up new signs and such to show that they want to do the right thing.
At this point, they just want to save face and know that "winning" a lawsuit really wouldn't look good in the eyes of their customers.
When this happens to a large and powerful company, everyone recognizes that in the long run this doesn't really affect Disney at all. They are either self-insured or have an insurance policy to cover any financial loss from a settlement. Unfortunately, in the current state of our litigious society, many people will try to drag anyone through the coal to get what they are "owed" for nothing more than an act of god.
Posted on 6/16/16 at 2:48 pm to Bmath
do we even know the family will sue?
I know I wouldn't
I know I wouldn't
Posted on 6/16/16 at 2:48 pm to Bmath
quote:Well said
However, they will gladly accept responsibility for what happened on their property and put up new signs and such to show that they want to do the right thing.
At this point, they just want to save face and know that "winning" a lawsuit really wouldn't look good in the eyes of their customers.
When this happens to a large and powerful company, everyone recognizes that in the long run this doesn't really affect Disney at all. They are either self-insured or have an insurance policy to cover any financial loss from a settlement. Unfortunately, in the current state of our litigious society, many people will try to drag anyone through the coal to get what they are "owed" for nothing more than an act of god.
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