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re: Why the hell are there gators at Disney where small children are at?
Posted on 6/16/16 at 2:49 pm to Salmon
Posted on 6/16/16 at 2:49 pm to Salmon
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do we even know the family will sue?
I know I wouldn't
You should. Why not set that other kid up for life at the expense of a giant corporation?
It might not be the right thing to do... but frick it.
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Posted on 6/16/16 at 2:50 pm to LSUBoo
Lake Worth residents on Edge after Florida gator attack
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Wildlife officials point out that gator attacks are rare, and often a simple case of confusion, where the reptile may think a person is actually an animal.
Posted on 6/16/16 at 2:53 pm to dualed
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I know alligators aren't known to be super predators like they're portrayed to be, but if there's even a chance of them coming into contact with people staying at Disney then I don't see how anyone thought it would be a good idea to have them there.
Florida Fish and Game said during the announcement that they found the body that over 300 attacks since 1948 were significant enough that someone called Fish and Game.
28 deaths. so.. every few years someone is attacked and dies.
Last year it was a lady in her 60's.
The big mistake I see is that the signage by the water said NO SWIMMING.
should have said,
ALLIGATORS.
no wading, no swimming.
Do not feed the alligators.
Disney reports alligators who do not show signs of fear of humans.
They are taken to a more remote swamp.
Posted on 6/16/16 at 2:54 pm to ell_13
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Is a state liable if a gator attacks while you're at a state park?
Governments generally have immunity from that type of liability. Public/Private property is a massive legal distinction.
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And liable in what sense? Surely, you don't mean legally? If Disney wanted to fight a suit, they could and they'd likely "win". But it's not worth the expense monetarily or in the eyes of the customers.
They would lose, possibly on summary judgement. You have a near absolute duty to warn of known dangers, even to most trespassers. They obviously knew of this danger, b/c they proactively sought to reduce it. Why they didn't put up a sign is a mystery, but there is likely a paper trail leading to an answer that Disney wouldn't want made public.
Posted on 6/16/16 at 2:58 pm to CelticDog
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should have said,
ALLIGATORS.
Several years ago, my family and I stayed at a hotel in Daphne, Alabama. They had signs everywhere outside saying "Caution, Alligators" and "Be wary of Alligators". We were. And danged if there wasn't an alligator walking across they parking lot at one point.
Posted on 6/16/16 at 2:58 pm to Speedy G
I am curious as to there were no alligator warning signs if there indeed weren't any. Seems easy enough. So easy that I can't figure out why there wouldn't be any.
Posted on 6/16/16 at 2:59 pm to ell_13
What happens if a big hawk swoops down and grabs a baby while at the park? Is Disney liable then?
Posted on 6/16/16 at 3:02 pm to roadGator
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So easy that I can't figure out why there wouldn't be any.
No way it never came up in meetings. Only reason i can think of is worried about scaring guests.
Maybe legally they are covered with a no swimming sign (doesn't mean they won't settle this case)
Posted on 6/16/16 at 3:03 pm to Chad504boy
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Wildlife officials point out that gator attacks are rare, and often a simple case of confusion, where the reptile may think a person is actually an animal.
Which could be a reason for the body being recovered. The gator drug the boy into the water and drowned him, but never ate him. In sharks, they often take one bite and realize the person isn't their food source. They are attracted to the movement or the shape, but they essentially taste that the person isn't food and move on. LINK
Another reason could be that the struggle and people scared the gator away after he had killed the child. So it essentially never had a chance to eat him.
I'm not trying to be insensitive, but it is curious to me.
Posted on 6/16/16 at 3:04 pm to Topwater Trout
Walt Disney World Beaches Will Return With Enhanced Signage
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Disney spokeswoman Jacquee Wahler issued a statement just a short while ago saying “we are conducting a swift and thorough review of all of our processes and protocols. This includes the number, placement and wording of our signage and warnings.”
Posted on 6/16/16 at 3:07 pm to Speedy G
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Why they didn't put up a sign is a mystery
Well, they want people to actually use the beach. You start putting signs up about scary animals and it drives people away. 27 years later, it bit them in the arse.
Posted on 6/16/16 at 3:21 pm to Bmath
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In sharks, they often take one bite and realize the person isn't their food source.
I did an argumentative paper on this in college. While I do think most attacks are investigative some are clearly predatory. When great whites attack seals they usually do with one massive bite then let the seal bleed out before consuming...in most cases with humans they are pulled out of the water by people nearby before the shark can finish their meal.
Gators do drown and submerge their prey before eating because their teeth aren't designed to cut through flesh so they want the body to decompose...i believe had they not recovered the body eventually a gator would have eaten the child.
This post was edited on 6/16/16 at 3:24 pm
Posted on 6/16/16 at 3:23 pm to GeauxColonels
The signage change is predictable but will they really keep the beach? I doubt it.
Posted on 6/16/16 at 3:30 pm to ipodking
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Gators breed like rabbits in Florida. Can't contain them all
Everybody could use a pair of gator cowboy boots or a gator skin wallet. Let the hunt begin.
Now way in hell I'd eat one of those nasty frickers.
This post was edited on 6/16/16 at 3:31 pm
Posted on 6/16/16 at 3:34 pm to Topwater Trout
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will they really keep the beach? I doubt it.
pure negligence if they do.
Posted on 6/16/16 at 3:42 pm to Chad504boy
Posted on 6/16/16 at 3:42 pm to Chad504boy
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pure negligence if they do.
since this happened I really don't see how they can have anything but a barrier between the water and their property.
Posted on 6/16/16 at 3:44 pm to dualed
I remember when personal responsibility used to exist.
Posted on 6/16/16 at 3:44 pm to Tempratt
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Now way in hell I'd eat one of those nasty frickers.
Why not? Alligator is fantastic.
Posted on 6/16/16 at 3:47 pm to paddys pub
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I'm not a conspiracy theorist but if this is true, they're going to get screwed.
LINK
LINK
BAM. And i think admin deleted my post in that thread from when i was stating that the alligator though it was feeding time or something to that effect.
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