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re: Why is there no longer any political will for big public works projects?
Posted on 8/23/19 at 9:53 am to CarRamrod
Posted on 8/23/19 at 9:53 am to CarRamrod
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there have bone PLENTY of lowest bidders thrown out
Not enough:
Coastal Bridge Hwy 431
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The state levied daily fines against the company for the delay, but Coastal Bridge will continue to receive contracts from the state because Louisiana law prevents DOTD from rejecting the cheapest bid for construction work.
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As long as Coastal and other contractors continue to pay the fines or have the surety bonds to cover them, they can continue to bid on jobs, he said.
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Posted on 8/23/19 at 9:59 am to CarRamrod
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there have bone PLENTY of lowest bidders thrown out and the contract given to the next lowest. thats what the word "responsible" in there.
How many of these were because the bid wasn't responsive - i.e. it missed a page, or didn't list a technical detail, or somehow didn't meet the entire specifications of the bid request? As opposed to an actual "no thanks, the contractor sucks" deal?
In Jefferson Parish, on certain contracts, there is no low-bid law, and the contract routinely goes to whatever company made the most campaign contributions to the councilman in whose district the contract relates.
Posted on 8/23/19 at 10:00 am to Jcorye1
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Louisiana politicians are the dirtiest in the country
Well have you been to Illinois or anywhere in the northeast?
Posted on 8/23/19 at 10:04 am to X123F45
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Well have you been to Illinois
Construction companies are in the wife's name to get bumped up the pecking order.
Posted on 8/23/19 at 10:06 am to LSUFanHouston
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In Jefferson Parish, on certain contracts, there is no low-bid law, and the contract routinely goes to whatever company made the most campaign contributions to the councilman in whose district the contract relates.
In most states, there is a state law that dictates the bidding process for all local governments on any capital project exceeding a certain amount. It wouldn't really surprise me if LA didn't though.
Obviously some local entities have found ways around that. I've sat in on some council meetings where sealed bids were opened. In all but one instance, the lowest bid was approved. All of these were in Alabama.
Posted on 8/23/19 at 10:08 am to The Spleen
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In most states, there is a state law that dictates the bidding process for all local governments on any capital project exceeding a certain amount. It wouldn't really surprise me if LA didn't though.
FWIW, all of these local contracts I'm referring to are for professional services, not goods/construction.
Don't know if that matters.
Posted on 8/23/19 at 10:35 am to Teufelhunden
quote:if you want to discuss this with the owner, he frequents a popular local bar.
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Posted on 8/23/19 at 10:42 am to Slippy
because no one wants to go through all the hoops of working for any public sector. They make it difficult to get paid and there is already so much work for contractors to pursue elsewhere. Its just not desirable.
Posted on 8/23/19 at 10:50 am to Slippy
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After a flurry of activity a few months ago, talk of a new BR bridge has died off. It is without doubt the #1 public works priority in this state. I don't see how there is any legitimate argument otherwise.
The BR Bridge isn't in danger of collapsing into the river like the LC bridge is. Thankfully LC has two bridges.
Posted on 8/23/19 at 10:53 am to X123F45
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Well have you been to Illinois or anywhere in the northeast?
I lived in the Northeast, but have never been to Chicago.
Posted on 8/23/19 at 10:54 am to 225Tyga
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ecause no one wants to go through all the hoops of working for any public sector. They make it difficult to get paid and there is already so much work for contractors to pursue elsewhere. Its just not desirable.
I have an attorney friend that does legal work for the DOTD (mainly dealing with right of way issues). He bills monthly and he's lucky if he gets paid within 120 days.
Posted on 8/23/19 at 10:58 am to LSUFanHouston
Stupid question, being it’s an interstate highway shouldn’t the federal government use the federal taxes on gas to pay for a proper interstate ? Senators ????? Reps ???? Do something besides taking graft and going to cocktail parties in DC every night !
Posted on 8/23/19 at 10:59 am to LSUFanHouston
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he's lucky if he gets paid within 120 days.
thank you for backing my point. Extended payment terms like that can do serious damage to heavy cash flow companies.
frickkkkk government work
Posted on 8/23/19 at 11:01 am to LSUFanHouston
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In Louisiana, they float a bond to pay for a road, charge a toll to cover the bond payments plus maintenance plus support, and when the bond is paid off, that portion of tolls gets routed to increased BS expenses that have nothing to do with toll roads (such as CCC toll money being used for ferries).
What about all the money hay got siphoned off/away from the causeway tolls and distributed to Metairie and New Orleans “roads”? The corruption throughout the entirety of our state government has made people distrust even something as sensible as temporary tolls on new roads
Posted on 8/23/19 at 11:04 am to Oilfieldbiology
No such thing as a “temporary” toll in LA.
Kind of like JBE’s “temporary” sales tax increase a few years back, about 75% of which became permanent.
Kind of like JBE’s “temporary” sales tax increase a few years back, about 75% of which became permanent.
Posted on 8/23/19 at 11:05 am to BuckyCheese
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There was no EPA. Environmental and historic review process takes forever and cost $. Hoover dam would not be built today.
The interstate system would not have been built today
Posted on 8/23/19 at 11:07 am to The Spleen
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Most(all?) governmental units are allowed to reject a low bid if there are known issues with the contractor.
Welcome to Louisiana where every politician is related to a reputable contractor.
Posted on 8/23/19 at 11:08 am to Picayuner
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Stupid question, being it’s an interstate highway shouldn’t the federal government use the federal taxes on gas to pay for a proper interstate ?
Federal money funds the projects, but states manage them. Sometime the states have to chip in a percentage of the cost of the project. In those cases it's usually 80% Federal money, 20% state money.
Posted on 8/23/19 at 11:16 am to Centinel
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This.
If the government is involved, corruption and graft are guaranteed.
So do you propose we privatize highway infrastructure and pay market prices for smooth highways and big bridges?
We can't just stand pat any longer
Posted on 8/23/19 at 11:19 am to Slippy
Minden is about to lose a company with 750 jobs because the bridges have been derated, they’re looking at going to east texas
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