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re: Why is there no longer any political will for big public works projects?
Posted on 8/23/19 at 8:41 am to PhilemonThomas
Posted on 8/23/19 at 8:41 am to PhilemonThomas
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There was no EPA. Environmental and historic review process takes forever and cost $.
Hoover dam would not be built today.
Posted on 8/23/19 at 8:41 am to Teufelhunden
quote:yea thats not true at all.
All road construction in La goes to the lowest bidder, regardless of their reputation or past performance.
Posted on 8/23/19 at 8:42 am to CarRamrod
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you think texdot had no say in that?
Of course, as well as the municipalities. But management, execution, and post support/maitenance is all NTTA.
Posted on 8/23/19 at 8:44 am to Slippy
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What is a realistic solution that could put shovels in the ground NOW?
Magically get rid of all politicians.
Posted on 8/23/19 at 8:44 am to PhilemonThomas
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There was no EPA. Environmental and historic review process takes forever and cost $. God forbid you impact a wetland, a building that is over 50 years old, or hook toothed skink habitat. That will slow a project and cost more $. Look at the I-10 widening in BR. It's been in environmental and historic review for over 1 year. That's where they are with the new bridge right now too.
Regulations have driven up the cost of building stuff we need.
Most other states are still building new infrastructure as needed.
I can understand where wetlands are involved, that's a much bigger problem in LA vs other places, but that in no way explains all the total incompetence around here.
Posted on 8/23/19 at 8:45 am to LSUFanHouston
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Most other states are still building new infrastructure as needed.
Still late, and cost overruns.
Posted on 8/23/19 at 8:46 am to Slippy
Raise taxes this November so the can build the new beige in port Allen so a new ms bridge can be feasible
Posted on 8/23/19 at 8:46 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Usually 100% cost overruns.
cost overruns.
Posted on 8/23/19 at 8:47 am to Scruffy
That would put shovels to work digging six feet repeatedly.
Posted on 8/23/19 at 8:47 am to PhilemonThomas
Politicians cannot even efficiently build a freaking bathroom.
https://www.6sqft.com/average-nyc-parks-bathroom-costs-taxpayers-roughly-3-6m-to-complete-report-says/
https://www.6sqft.com/average-nyc-parks-bathroom-costs-taxpayers-roughly-3-6m-to-complete-report-says/
Posted on 8/23/19 at 8:48 am to 50_Tiger
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This is why private with a toll is the way to go.
I’m fine with this. I’m fine with whatever gets us a loop and new bridge. Tolls work fine in Texas.
Posted on 8/23/19 at 8:59 am to Slippy
Because if the true cost is 15 million and a 4 year completion timeframe, we would pay 75 million for it and a bunch of ole construction base and politicians would pocket the difference, and it would take 20 years to complete
Posted on 8/23/19 at 9:01 am to CarRamrod
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yea thats not true at all
R.S. 38:2212: A. (1) All public work exceeding the contract limit . . . shall be advertised and let by contract to the lowest responsible and responsive bidder who had bid according to the bidding documents as advertised . . .
"Responsible" = not a convicted felon and doesn't boycott Israel.
Posted on 8/23/19 at 9:04 am to Teufelhunden
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R.S. 38:2212: A. (1) All public work exceeding the contract limit . . . shall be advertised and let by contract to the lowest responsible and responsive bidder who had bid according to the bidding documents as advertised . . .
"Responsible" = not a convicted felon and doesn't boycott Israel.
Most(all?) governmental units are allowed to reject a low bid if there are known issues with the contractor. If there are no known extenuating circumstances, they are required to accept the lowest bid.
Posted on 8/23/19 at 9:06 am to Slippy
They need to create a new bridge by L'Auberge that is a toll bridge.
And design it in a way that it could potentially one day be part of a loop.
But what do I know.
And design it in a way that it could potentially one day be part of a loop.
But what do I know.
Posted on 8/23/19 at 9:08 am to Slippy
Wrong. EBR voters recently passed a billion dollar plus plan go improve local and state highways.
Posted on 8/23/19 at 9:09 am to 50_Tiger
Easily the greatest road I’ve ever driven on
Posted on 8/23/19 at 9:16 am to 50_Tiger
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Someone mentioned to me at work the other day that NTTA has to make projects within a certain timeframe or they start paying fines.
LA DOTD routinely includes fines in their contracts for missed completion dates or quality/safety violations.
The problem is that they often go unenforced. The contractors all have political buddies that give them shelter when something goes wrong. This allows shitty contractors to low-bid projects knowing they won’t actually be held to the standards in the contracts.
The state doesn’t have the balls to bankrupt a contractor when they over-promise and under-deliver. If they did, I bet you’d see much more realistic “low bids” start coming in.
Posted on 8/23/19 at 9:38 am to Teufelhunden
quote:there have bone PLENTY of lowest bidders thrown out and the contract given to the next lowest. thats what the word "responsible" in there.
R.S. 38:2212: A. (1) All public work exceeding the contract limit . . . shall be advertised and let by contract to the lowest responsible and responsive bidder who had bid according to the bidding documents as advertised . . .
"Responsible" = not a convicted felon and doesn't boycott Israel.
Posted on 8/23/19 at 9:39 am to TheCaterpillar
quote:seems like a good head you have there because some of the best roadway, bridge and transportation engineers say that is near one of the best locations.
They need to create a new bridge by L'Auberge that is a toll bridge.
And design it in a way that it could potentially one day be part of a loop.
But what do I know.
This post was edited on 8/23/19 at 9:40 am
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