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re: Why is Team Glock such a powerful force to be reckoned with?

Posted on 4/22/18 at 3:03 pm to
Posted by samson73103
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Posted on 4/22/18 at 3:03 pm to
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Sig Sauer says hello


H&K was selling the polymer framed VP 70 before Sig or Glock either one were even formed.


HK is a fine weapon although it's quite pricey. My point was the poster suggesting that Glock was the be all, end all doesn't know WTF he is talking about. I prefer the Sig to the Glock but that's just me.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 4/22/18 at 3:18 pm to
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Because they are good guns that look cool without breaking the bank


Glocks are overpriced for what they are imo. You can find better handguns at a lower price point.

Glocks are so popular because they are great at brand-building.

And now, people get Glocks because since they are so popular, they are the most customizable.

Dumb sites, an average trigger, okay ergos. So you have to spend almost $600 on the gun and then spend another $200-$300 to get it how you want.

That being said, who doesn't love a Glock? I love em, but they need to stop living off of past glory.
Posted by Placebeaux
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Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 4/22/18 at 3:18 pm to
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I understand wanting a Glock because it doesn't break the bank and is extremely reliable, but personally I find them pretty ugly.


If you are looking for cute accessories to match your outfit , the mall has many stores for that. If your looking for a handgun that will do its job every time then Glock is your choice.
Posted by Herman Frisco
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Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 4/22/18 at 3:29 pm to
I have a G43. Put a set of nite sights and a trigger on it. Glocks shoot every time you pull the trigger. No matter how dirty they shoot.
You would be surprised at the number of people who don’t keep their guns clean.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 4/22/18 at 3:36 pm to
Glock deserves the credit they're given. Striker fired guns are the standard now because of glocks complete market domination.

Do I like them? No. The ergonomics are horrendous for me and I dont like striker fired guns without safeties. They are dominating the market in their category though and have been for decades.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 4/22/18 at 3:41 pm to
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My point was the poster suggesting that Glock was the be all, end all doesn't know WTF he is talking about. I prefer the Sig to the Glock but that's just me.


I believe Glock is the most popular handgun in the US. While that doesn't by any means make them the be all, end all pistol, it almost certainly means that the pistol does address more wants, needs, and desires of more pistol buyers than any other currently.

I've never owned a Sig, but deciding right now between it and a Beretta for my oldest son who turns 21 in May.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
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Posted on 4/22/18 at 3:45 pm to

I'm having a hard time focusing long enough to find the pistol.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 4/22/18 at 3:47 pm to
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Glocks are overpriced for what they are imo. You can find better handguns at a lower price point.


Such as? Like I said, I'm looking at a Sig and a Beretta full size 9 for my son. Neither are in the price neighborhood of a Glock.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 4/22/18 at 3:51 pm to
I think the m&p series and springfield XD series are competitively priced with glock and are considered by many to be "better." I think the sig p320 falls in there as well.

Those are all plastic guns though, the sig and beretta you're looking at are likely steel or aluminum frame guns which of course cost more to make. I greatly prefer a metal frame gun especially for a gift. They're just nicer.
This post was edited on 4/22/18 at 3:52 pm
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 4/22/18 at 3:58 pm to
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Those are all plastic guns though, the sig and beretta you're looking at are likely steel or aluminum frame guns which of course cost more to make. I greatly prefer a metal frame gun especially for a gift. They're just nicer.


Well, you're absolutely right there, I wasn't really being fair. I'm looking at those two for that very reason, aluminum frame. Price is just a little surprising though, as you can buy a pretty nice 1911 for the money the want for each.

I'd just pop for the 1911, but why be jealous of my 21 year old son, especially when I'm doing the buying?
Posted by CelticDog
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Posted on 4/22/18 at 4:02 pm to
In a crowded marketplace, name recognition matters.

The good qualities of the product are well respected on TD.

Those two are enough.
Rep.
Name.

Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56308 posts
Posted on 4/22/18 at 4:04 pm to
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They're tactical as frick

pretty much this, and black people.

Personally, I'm not into plastic guns.
This post was edited on 4/22/18 at 4:05 pm
Posted by SabiDojo
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 4/22/18 at 4:11 pm to
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Such as?


Look at the M&P Compact 2.0, the CZ P10-C, Springfield XDM (though I wouldn't consider them better than Glock, there are many that do), the Walther PPQ M2, even Ruger is bridging the gap with the American compact. And all of them save for the Walther are considerably cheaper than the new Glocks.

Glock just isn't changing to make themselves better. The CZ P10-C is considered by many to be the best compact polymer striker fired pistol on the market and you can find it for $100-$150 cheaper than a Glock Gen 5.
This post was edited on 4/22/18 at 6:31 pm
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 4/22/18 at 4:13 pm to
The sig p365 is going to force glock to catch up. It's the first gamechanger in decades. Probably really the first gamechanger since glock took over law enforcement.
Posted by Num1TigerSpam
Member since Mar 2018
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Posted on 4/22/18 at 5:38 pm to
The name just rolls off the tongue and sounds strong, it's enjoyable to say and reminiscent of the thought of cocking a gun. Unique and easy to remember. Just a small part aside from everything else already said.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
30077 posts
Posted on 4/22/18 at 6:25 pm to

Majority of guys who bought them, who were police, ended up going back to dealer to exchange it for a different gun.


Gonna need some documentation for this Whopper, chief.
Posted by chinese58
NELA. after 30 years in Dallas.
Member since Jun 2004
30380 posts
Posted on 4/22/18 at 6:50 pm to
Because Glocks are so dependable, they get brought up in articles about other handguns.

quote:

The Bren Ten, The Fashion Of Firearms and The Sword Of Legend

by Jack Baruth |

Nov 01, 2013

It’s ironic, in the non-Alanis-Morrissette sense, if you think about it: The Glock 17 pistol and its successors have been tirelessly vilified, demonized and even libeled by the firearms-hating American media since before it found a single owner on this continent. Yet the fantastic polymer dishwasher-safe double-stacker is the best possible example of firearm-as-tool. Consider the following scenario: You have been informed that you are 100% certain to be in a gunfight tomorrow and that you can only take one pistol and one backup magazine with you. You don’t know what the weather will be, what the number of opponents will be, what the lighting conditions will be. Nothing is certain but the this: you’re going to have to fire your weapon in anger. How many of us would take anything but a Glock? . . .

In a world where nobody had any personal attachment whatsoever to a firearm — a world where we chose a pistol the same way we’d choose a dishwasher or a furnace filter — the Glock would account for ninety-nine percent of sales. No other pistol is as durable, as reliable, as fault-tolerant. Chuck Taylor famously put a hundred thousand rounds through his and reported just one stoppage. Face it. If you really thought you’d need a gun tomorrow, and you had free choice, you’d be a fool to choose anything but a Glock.

Well, as the saying goes, I was that fool. ...

...Which brings me to the Bren Ten; indeed, to the 10mm cartridge itself. ...


quote:

...If pistols were simply tools for survival, we’d all carry Glocks. But they aren’t. They are emotionally and spiritually important, which is why some people choose to carry something besides a Glock. But they aren’t. They are emotionally and spiritually important, which is why some people choose to carry something besides a Glock. They may have any number of putative reasons for doing so, from trigger pull to grip size, but if you could hypnotize them and find out the actual truth of the matter, you’d find that they have chosen their Officer’s ACP or Kahr K9 or TZ-75 Factory Comp .41 Action Express (yo!) because that firearm fits into their personal narrative. It appeals to them. It’s part of their story in a way that a Glock couldn’t be.

The anti-gun media, were they to become particularly sensitive to this, would no doubt characterize it in demeaning pseudo-sexual terms or make references to Walter Mitty. They’d be wrong in doing so. The relationship between men (or women) and their chosen weapon predates Sigmund Freud or Hollywood. It’s a belief that each of us has the capability to bond with a particular object and that the sum of us plus that object is greater than the individual parts. It’s why we smile when we see Sonny Crockett with the Bren Ten or Harry Callahan with the long-barreled Model 29. Hero and heroic object. When Sonny Crockett switched to a garden-variety Smith autopistol, the series tanked. Coincidence? Who knows. The desire for Excalibur is as old as humanity itself, and it isn’t going anywhere anytime soon. But with all that said, if you really think you’ll need a gun tomorrow, take the advice of another legendary figure — Tommy Lee Jones’ marshal from The Fugitive — and get yourself a Glock, okay?

This post was edited on 4/22/18 at 7:52 pm
Posted by upgrayedd
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Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 4/22/18 at 7:19 pm to
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Glock just isn't changing to make themselves better.

Eh, they're considered the 1911 of the striker fired polymer framed world. Innovation isn't really a high priority.
Posted by samson73103
Krypton
Member since Nov 2008
8130 posts
Posted on 4/22/18 at 9:31 pm to
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I've never owned a Sig, but deciding right now between it and a Beretta

Can't go wrong with either. I've shot the PX4 Storm a few times and it's a nice weapon. I really don't think there is a tremendous difference in quality between Sig, Glock, Beretta, S&W, Ruger etc. It just all comes down to what feels right in your hand and whether you're looking to conceal or not. I will say that I've heard from a LEO friend that Glocks can take plenty of abuse and that he cleaned his by running it thru the dishwasher.
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