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re: Why is it so difficult to discuss topics that challenge our beliefs
Posted on 9/12/18 at 8:12 am to Salmon
Posted on 9/12/18 at 8:12 am to Salmon
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I'd argue that it is incredibly difficult to ask someone to completely re-wire their brain.
On the spot, yes. Over time, no. I have changed the way I think on a lot of things. Just takes time and conversation.
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Posted on 9/12/18 at 8:15 am to Teague
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Plus, I think most people are incredibly lazy intellectually. The vast majority of people are going to believe whatever is accepted by their peers and put little, if any, real thought into it. It's a lot easier to just believe "I didn't come from no monkey" than to put the effort into actually understanding how evolution works, for example.
I just think we don’t place value in conviction anymore. People that understand why they believe something and can articulate why they believe it are less prone to being easily swayed or offended when someone disagrees with them.
As my previous post stated, what i find personally frustrating is when people with poor convictions resort to juvenile arguments or misdirection to make up for their lack of conviction. You see it all the time.
Posted on 9/12/18 at 8:15 am to DeafJam73
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Over time, no. I have changed the way I think on a lot of things. Just takes time and conversation.
The fact that it takes time is evidence that it is difficult.
And I'm willing to be that you resisted quite heavily in the beginning.
Posted on 9/12/18 at 8:19 am to shamrock
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The fact that you would ask that question is revealing
Revealing of what? I was curious.
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It’s a grossly absurd stereotype
Yup, isnt just the south and isnt just religion. Try telling a liberal family you're Republican or cat loving family that you got a dog etc lol
Posted on 9/12/18 at 8:23 am to Salmon
If you believe something and quickly change your tune just because someone told you something different, you have no convictions. Obviously this doesn’t really ring true if the belief we’re talking about is that the sky is pink or something else objectively false.
But if we’re talking about subjective things like different political beliefs, many will be shaped by personal experience so it’s not exactly easy to just switch your belief unless something significant triggers that change.
If I’m an open borders guy and just shout from rooftops to let everyone in, short of an illegal killing my whole family, it wouldn’t be easy to John Kerry my stance just by discussion alone.
But if we’re talking about subjective things like different political beliefs, many will be shaped by personal experience so it’s not exactly easy to just switch your belief unless something significant triggers that change.
If I’m an open borders guy and just shout from rooftops to let everyone in, short of an illegal killing my whole family, it wouldn’t be easy to John Kerry my stance just by discussion alone.
Posted on 9/12/18 at 8:37 am to celltech1981
the fact that you instantly had to bring up Trump says a lot
Posted on 9/12/18 at 8:38 am to shamrock
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OP asking about talking to a family in a Southern city about religion reeks of arrogance and myopic thought
It was a rhetorical question referencing my own personal experience
Posted on 9/12/18 at 8:42 am to stapuffmarshy
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Kain't you reed dumdum? He ain't goona entertain THAT
Posted on 9/12/18 at 8:46 am to NIH
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the fact that you instantly had to bring up Trump says a lot
it says that there are usually a few posts on page one of the poli board that are a circle jerk around a trump tweet
Posted on 9/12/18 at 8:47 am to shamrock
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arrogance is a consistent feature in people who can’t form logical vs emotional arguments
I disagree, I think it’s anger and fear. Arrogance is is more an action or lack thereof than an emotion, so by definition it wouldn’t stop you from forming an argument that is not emotional. Granted, it will likely be illogical.
Posted on 9/12/18 at 8:49 am to celltech1981
Trump is a perfect example of this behavior. He is a polarizing figure in today's society. A lot of people are very hardlined on Trump one way or another.
Most of our core beliefs revolve around politics and religion. Bringing up the POTUS in this discussion seems like an obvious example.
Most of our core beliefs revolve around politics and religion. Bringing up the POTUS in this discussion seems like an obvious example.
Posted on 9/12/18 at 8:53 am to TH03
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Isn’t this usually a problem for less intelligent people? I’d say either that or the ego thing someone else mentioned. Could be both as well. A dumb person who thinks they can’t be wrong is scary.
Posted on 9/12/18 at 8:55 am to Masterag
“My own personal experience”..see myopic thought I referenced earlier,
Posted on 9/12/18 at 9:04 am to shamrock
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My own personal experience”..see myopic thought I referenced earlier,
Can you spell whatever you’re trying to say out like I’m dumb, because I am unable to follow you. Are you saying I’m shortsighted based on the fact that I no longer practice a religion?
Posted on 9/12/18 at 9:15 am to Masterag
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Why is it so difficult to discuss topics that challenge our beliefs
Because leftists don't want their beliefs challenged; they want total world domination and totalitarian control. Thought is antithetical to the radical left.
Posted on 9/12/18 at 9:16 am to Barbellthor
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Because leftists don't want their beliefs challenged; they want total world domination and totalitarian control. Thought is antithetical to the radical left.
The irony.
Posted on 9/12/18 at 9:23 am to celltech1981
Yea he tweets too much. Also there are idiots who believe anything propaganda media tells them and have Trump derangement syndrome.
Posted on 9/12/18 at 9:28 am to Masterag
Confirmation bias among a ton of other biases and fallacies. Also, in this day and age of instant opinions, people still think they are entitled to them with no defense. If you post something stupid on FB, you deserve to be yelled at.
Posted on 9/12/18 at 9:28 am to TH03
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The irony.
The censorship is real. I am not wrong.
Posted on 9/12/18 at 9:37 am to Barbellthor
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The censorship is real. I am not wrong.
You are wrong in the fact that you believe it is unique to "leftists"
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