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re: Why is it so difficult to discuss topics that challenge our beliefs
Posted on 9/12/18 at 6:43 am to celltech1981
Posted on 9/12/18 at 6:43 am to celltech1981
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the catholic religion
I don't know why but nearly every person I have met that lost their faith was at one time Catholic. Not really saying anything negative about them but it's just been my personal experience.
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Posted on 9/12/18 at 6:45 am to Masterag
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challenge our beliefs
Posted on 9/12/18 at 6:48 am to MFn GIMP
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Because of our ego. You aren't going to believe something that you think, or know, is wrong so your ego tells you that all of your beliefs are correct. While, at the same time, conflicting beliefs that others hold must be wrong because they differ from yours.
Interesting. We usually associate ego with arrogance, although that’s not really a precise definition. I’ve met some seemingly humble people who, when discussing religion, become angry and put up walls.
We usually say the most bullheaded people have the most fragile egos, but is it actually the opposite?
Posted on 9/12/18 at 6:55 am to eScott
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In person it's rarely been an issue.
I disagree. Ever tried to tell your southern family you no longer follow their religion?
Posted on 9/12/18 at 6:57 am to Masterag
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Why do we close our minds to certain topics?
I'll kill you if you think I'm unwilling to discuss why you and everyone else is wrong.
Posted on 9/12/18 at 6:58 am to FatBoy62
My whole life a certain priest was held up as an example of holiness whose life I should try to imitate. Turns out he had a few mistresses and diddled some kids. That wasn't the bad part, church leadership had known about it for 5 years before the info became public and had just removed him from duties and tried to keep it quiet. When you're told that god personally calls people to the priesthood and then you see first hand the types he is calling it makes you reconsider. This isn't the only reason i left the church but it was one of the incidents that got me thinking. Peoples willingness to turn a blind eye to harmful behavior just to protect their religion is pretty dangerous imo. this isn't specific to religion. you see it a lot in politics as well.
This post was edited on 9/12/18 at 7:03 am
Posted on 9/12/18 at 7:00 am to Masterag
Because why would I want to listen or read the mindless blabber of some stupid frick like Celltech?
Posted on 9/12/18 at 7:04 am to LSUballs
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Because why would I want to listen or read the mindless blabber of some stupid frick like Celltech?
you're a shining example of what the OP was talking about lol
was just giving an example of my beliefs being challenged
This post was edited on 9/12/18 at 7:06 am
Posted on 9/12/18 at 7:04 am to Masterag
because they are "beliefs".
Posted on 9/12/18 at 7:06 am to celltech1981
Melt
Lol, that's the most common response.
If you anger them you are a cuck.
Lol, that's the most common response.
If you anger them you are a cuck.
Posted on 9/12/18 at 7:07 am to Napoleon
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Melt
melt more
Posted on 9/12/18 at 7:08 am to Masterag
Because people tie their identities to their belief system, thus shutting down when challenged. It's all about that ego.
Posted on 9/12/18 at 7:16 am to Masterag
Isn’t this usually a problem for less intelligent people? I’d say either that or the ego thing someone else mentioned. Could be both as well. A dumb person who thinks they can’t be wrong is scary.
Posted on 9/12/18 at 7:16 am to celltech1981
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gotcha, it wasn't an overnight thing and it wasn't a comfortable transition. basically everything i believed in started falling apart the more i investigated why i believed it or investigated why the church told me to believe it. was a 4 or 5 year transition from somebody who went to mass daily and confession a couple times a week to being agnostic.
Maybe the Catholic church is the problem. Maybe you should try something else.
Do you believe in the Bible? If so, then definitely try something else. I'm a Baptist and we teach the Bible without "I think".
Posted on 9/12/18 at 7:17 am to Masterag
Usually it's a liberal that wants to challenge my beliefs and their beliefs aren't just different but completely insane. I'm not going to entertain that.
Posted on 9/12/18 at 7:21 am to TH03
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. A dumb person who thinks they can’t be wrong is scary
.....and this folks is why the political board is a scary place.
Posted on 9/12/18 at 7:22 am to Wtodd
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Maybe you should try something else.
i tried, couldn't force it
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Do you believe in the Bible?
i think the bible has some good messages but i don't believe that it was divinely inspired.
Posted on 9/12/18 at 7:24 am to AUsteriskPride
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Because people tie their identities to their belief system, thus shutting down when challenged.
Yeah, I think this is the biggest root cause. Good insight
Posted on 9/12/18 at 7:25 am to tigersbh
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Usually it's a liberal that wants to challenge my beliefs and their beliefs aren't just different but completely insane. I'm not going to entertain that.
Example?
Posted on 9/12/18 at 7:26 am to TH03
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A dumb person who thinks they can’t be wrong is scary.
it isn't always dumb people who think they can't be wrong. I think it has more to do with how somebody was raised and educated than their actual intelligence level. I know a mechanical engineer who believes that Rome fell because of gay people.
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