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re: Why I think this coronavirus “pandemic” is bull shite
Posted on 4/4/20 at 12:02 pm to Earthquake 88
Posted on 4/4/20 at 12:02 pm to Earthquake 88
Whoa........ Easy big fella.
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Posted on 4/4/20 at 12:08 pm to EarlyCuyler3
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We could stand to lose a good 20% of the population
Dude, you need to get a grasp of reality. Literally NOBODY is thinking this (except you). According to the experts, only 5-6% of those that get it become critical and even if half die, that is 3% of those are exposed to the virus. So at worst case, we lose 1.5-2% of the population. That's alot but nowhere near your thinking.
Posted on 4/4/20 at 1:00 pm to SlackMaster
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So at worst case, we lose 1.5-2% of the population. That's alot but nowhere near your thinking.
Not even close to that. Once the numbers are extrapolated for asymptomatic cases the number will be well under 1%.
Posted on 4/4/20 at 2:26 pm to OceanMan
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Not even close to that. Once the numbers are extrapolated for asymptomatic cases the number will be well under 1%.
You are correct and less than 1% of our country will die from this virus yet our elected officials and media are causing a panic. Is this virus serious. Of course it is. But to shut down an entire economy is ridiculous. Hell I feel like my rights are violated having to keep a document in my vehicle stating I work for an essential business that manufactures things for our military in case I get pulled over because of a curfew. Or wasting my time at an I-10 checkpoint because I have to drive to Pensacola for my job. They are not going to tell you that you can’t enter their state anyway nor can they monitor where you go. Complete waste of time and money. If the whole country is about to die I would like someone to explain why nurses all across the country are getting their hours cut. I wish we could quarantine stupidity because 90% of the media and elected officials could live in that bubble while the rest of America gets back to work.
Posted on 4/4/20 at 2:44 pm to Earthquake 88
To me, the key thing that I feel like some people are missing when they make a statement such as the OP does is not the raw number of deaths...The huge, gigantic, overriding problem this thing is creating is how difficult it is making to deliver care for conditions/disease entities that people wouldn't normally or shouldn't die as a result of. That is a real issue everywhere right now although statistics don't show it at this particular moment in time.
Surgery for some cancers (not all, but some) and some other issues that really should be done are having to be postponed, acute care for trauma is definitely affected in high density areas and potentially everywhere because of real or coming shortages of professionals to deliver care or medications, routine health maintenance and surveillance for mildly to moderately impactful disease processes and the list literally goes on and on. The thing is that this pandemic has to be looked at in the context of real life, not just raw numbers of cases, deaths, etc published on graphs.
Surgery for some cancers (not all, but some) and some other issues that really should be done are having to be postponed, acute care for trauma is definitely affected in high density areas and potentially everywhere because of real or coming shortages of professionals to deliver care or medications, routine health maintenance and surveillance for mildly to moderately impactful disease processes and the list literally goes on and on. The thing is that this pandemic has to be looked at in the context of real life, not just raw numbers of cases, deaths, etc published on graphs.
Posted on 4/4/20 at 2:51 pm to Shepherd88
And this is why someone posted something about tigerdroppings being full of a bunch of ignorant idiots.
Posted on 4/4/20 at 3:05 pm to BigPapiDoesItAgain
You make a good point. Some surgeries that can be put off need to be. But cancer and other immediate diseases and emergencies on a day to day basis aren’t taking a break from this Covid-19 China virus.
Posted on 4/4/20 at 3:37 pm to LSU Fan 90812
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If the same rate of death occurs, we re talking about lots and lots of people dying. It would be akin to if terminal cancer could be passed by a cough and it killed you in weeks not months or years.
This is the single dumbest sentence I have read this calendar year.
Posted on 4/4/20 at 3:53 pm to MidnightVibe
I’m trying to explain an analogous large scale statistical thing to a poster who clearly can not comprehend statistics using very small words and familiar diseases.
I could’ve used words like “exponential growth modeling vs linear growth modeling” , “infection rate” “change over time” “populations” and other such jargon, but the OP was already having a clear problem with understanding statistics and their context.
You apparently have a hard time understanding analogies.
I could’ve used words like “exponential growth modeling vs linear growth modeling” , “infection rate” “change over time” “populations” and other such jargon, but the OP was already having a clear problem with understanding statistics and their context.
You apparently have a hard time understanding analogies.
This post was edited on 4/4/20 at 3:58 pm
Posted on 4/4/20 at 3:54 pm to Shepherd88
What’s raising the BS flag...why isn’t hydroxychloriquine available for all who want to give it a go? This makes no sense.
The supposed success rate is ridiculously high if taken early enough.
The supposed success rate is ridiculously high if taken early enough.
Posted on 4/4/20 at 3:58 pm to EarlyCuyler3
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We could stand to lose a good 20% of the population.
Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Posted on 4/4/20 at 3:59 pm to LSU Fan 90812
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During that 3 months, only a small percentage of the worlds 7 billion people were exposed to the virus.
How do you know? Do you have the antibody test and just not sharing it?
Posted on 4/4/20 at 3:59 pm to EarlyCuyler3
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We could stand to lose a good 20% of the population.
Posted on 4/4/20 at 4:16 pm to 2Yutes
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why isn’t hydroxychloriquine available for all who want to give it a go
When do you want to take it? Are you going to take it prophylactically, and if so for how long? What strategy are you advocating in this regard.
Data is limited, but decent enough to suggest that the best time to take it is early in the course of known (as in a positive test) or highly suspected disease (based on clinical picture c/w the disease, but testing not available and/or impractical).
There is no way to keep up with demand if there is simply unfettered access, not to mention some folks are gonna die from heart arrhythmias from QT prolongation in the context of undiagnosed underlying conditions or mixing with the wrong drugs. And if I missed the gist of your post that I quoted, I apologize.
edited to add source of the image above:
IBCC website
https://emcrit.org/ibcc/covid19/
This post was edited on 4/4/20 at 4:18 pm
Posted on 4/4/20 at 4:19 pm to GaDawg9977
I’m speaking in generalities to a person who does not understand how statistics are used. I’m not a statistician, epidemiologist, infectious disease expert, or fortune teller.
Im explaining how it is possible that the virus is a bigger threat than OPs post and perspective would imply.
One of the many saving possibilities to this not becoming one of the biggest catastrophes the world has ever seen besides vaccines, easy and ubiquitous accurate testing, or a cure, is the idea that large populations may already have been exposed, and that the remaining population left is much smaller than previously thought.
That is NOT what OP was saying.
Im explaining how it is possible that the virus is a bigger threat than OPs post and perspective would imply.
One of the many saving possibilities to this not becoming one of the biggest catastrophes the world has ever seen besides vaccines, easy and ubiquitous accurate testing, or a cure, is the idea that large populations may already have been exposed, and that the remaining population left is much smaller than previously thought.
That is NOT what OP was saying.
Posted on 4/4/20 at 4:23 pm to LSU Fan 90812
Dr Shiva who has 4 degrees from MIT. is a biomedical engineer that knows the immune system backwards and forwards, is just one major academic who disagrees with you.
But I appreciate your thoughtful response instead of immediate bashing.
But I appreciate your thoughtful response instead of immediate bashing.
Posted on 4/4/20 at 4:25 pm to Shepherd88
Numerous experts and doctors have told us to just practice caution, be responsible about your health, and that’s there’s no need to panic. Of course they never get the tv segment
Posted on 4/4/20 at 4:28 pm to Shepherd88
Can you post the study of Dr Shiva? This far I’m just seeing the one graphic.
Posted on 4/4/20 at 4:30 pm to LSU Fan 90812
LINK
He post a lot and is very vocal. The easiest thing is to just look him up on any social media platform.
He post a lot and is very vocal. The easiest thing is to just look him up on any social media platform.
This post was edited on 4/4/20 at 4:32 pm
Posted on 4/4/20 at 4:31 pm to Shepherd88
just gotta let natural selection and Darwinisim run its course, the rest will take care of itself, nature she’s a beast and batting 100%...
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