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re: Why I think this coronavirus “pandemic” is bull shite

Posted on 4/4/20 at 4:44 pm to
Posted by LSU Fan 90812
A man more eviler than Skeletor.
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Posted on 4/4/20 at 4:44 pm to
I’m not going to go too much into this. But this doctor is running for US senate. And despite his accreditation, his site looks much more like a political and for profit propaganda site than a respectable medical journal or scientific study.

Most respected scientific studies are published with vetted scientist authors, citing multiple experiments and studies, explaining the testing and groups sampled, and using the scientific method to try to confirm a hypothesis. They are peer reviewed and held to scrutiny and even some of these are considered more well researched and bullet proofed than others. Legitimate studies look like this:

LINK

I would consider that you look at the great number of doctors and scientists across the world all saying similar things about the potential reach of the virus.

I would also ask you to think about how each of these scientists are coming to similar conclusions, and how or why they would all lie. What they could possibly gain by doing this.



This post was edited on 4/4/20 at 4:49 pm
Posted by PiscesTiger
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Posted on 4/4/20 at 4:45 pm to
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Posted by RazorBroncs
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Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 4/4/20 at 4:47 pm to
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Apparently the OP wears this hat. 


You could've just posted a regular tin foil hat, not sure what MAGA has to do with OP's opinion. Trump downplayed the virus for a few days and has been leading the charge to take it seriously for the weeks since then, R or D have nothing to do with how one perceives this.

The people drawing political lines in the sand and saying "you're on this side or that one, pick!" are the cause of 99% of America's problems. You definitely don't improve anything for the greater good of the country - including this pandemic - when you have that mindset. Quite the opposite.

I'm a Republican and a Trump supporter and I disagree with OP. I'm sure a lot - if not most - of the Repubs around here don't think the "pandemic is bull shite."

Can we not leave this shite out of it? The virus doesn't care if you're in a red or blue state or who you voted for in 2016, and it's gonna take effort from every class, race, and political party supporter in this country to defeat it and get rolling again.
Posted by LSU Fan 90812
A man more eviler than Skeletor.
Member since Feb 2005
50655 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 4:54 pm to
I’m not a trump supporter for personal reasons. But I can both be ready to vote for an alternative while hoping that the coordinated US response including Trumps directives with help from the world ends the potential human and economic suffering the world is sure to endure if this thing continues to worsen.

The surest way for that to happen is if everyone understands that this virus is serious. And that it is not BS. And that it doesn’t care if you think it’s BS, it can kill you and your parents and grandparents.

Posted by Shepherd88
Member since Dec 2013
4579 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 4:57 pm to
He is running for senate, against Elizabeth Warren, and I respect the hell out of that bc someone who knows what they’re talking about should be in Congress.

You can spin it however you want but to have 4 degrees from MIT, then you know what you’re talking about.

Not to mention the data is clearly showing that this is not growing at the rate that’s being touted in the news.

LINK
Posted by LSU Fan 90812
A man more eviler than Skeletor.
Member since Feb 2005
50655 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 5:00 pm to
The data is showing that the growth rate is slowing with more than 4/5 of the country observing shelter in place orders. And the largest and most populated states having done so for so for almost a month.

Your stats could be used to showing that the current plan of social distancing is working, and that the pandemic is not bullshite, but is being mitigated by drastic measures.
This post was edited on 4/4/20 at 5:01 pm
Posted by Shepherd88
Member since Dec 2013
4579 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 5:04 pm to
Explain Sweden then? Their infection rate is half of what other countries are that have implemented shelter in place.
This post was edited on 4/4/20 at 5:07 pm
Posted by LSU Fan 90812
A man more eviler than Skeletor.
Member since Feb 2005
50655 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 5:08 pm to
I’ve been to Sweden. Firstly, they are an island so it’s conceivable that they were slower to be exposed.

Secondly, do you mean this Sweden? This is the news today.

LINK

quote:

But after a week of sobering data, Lofven now seems to be striking a darker tone. In an interview published on Saturday by Dagens Nyheter, he warned that Sweden may be facing “thousands” of coronavirus deaths, and said the crisis is likely to drag on for months rather than weeks. Meanwhile, newspaper Expressen reported that his Social Democrat-led government may be seeking extraordinary powers to bypass parliament and force through a sterner response to the virus.

The number of Swedish deaths rose to 373 on Saturday, up 12% from Friday. That brings the rate per million in Scandinavia’s biggest economy to 36, compared with 29 in Denmark and 9 in Norway, where much tougher lockdowns are in place.
This post was edited on 4/4/20 at 5:09 pm
Posted by BRIllini07
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2015
3014 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 5:09 pm to
Per day averages don’t quite work either. 31 days in Jan, 29 days in February this year, and the first 30 days in March is 90 days total.

Per day averages multiplied out would have put a zero in the ones column on all of these deaths :-)

I still claim the author of this chart is attempting to display a false degree of accuracy by ensuring the ones column has a number other than zero in it.
Posted by BigPapiDoesItAgain
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Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 4/4/20 at 5:11 pm to
quote:

Explain Sweden then? Their infection rate is half of what other countries are that have implemented shelter in place.


There are signs that the death rate in Sweden is growing faster than elsewhere in Scandinavia, raising pressure on the government to abandon its controversial hands-off approach in tackling Covid-19.

Sweden Covid-19 response
Posted by Celery
Nuevo York
Member since Nov 2010
11082 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 5:13 pm to
Smoking and Alcohol are not causes of death. They could say lung cancer, liver failure, drunk driving, liver cirrhosis, etc
Posted by zippyputt
Member since Jul 2005
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Posted on 4/4/20 at 5:14 pm to
This post was edited on 9/6/21 at 8:54 am
Posted by LSU Fan 90812
A man more eviler than Skeletor.
Member since Feb 2005
50655 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 5:46 pm to
Death is the leading cause of loss of life in the US...
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
35289 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 9:00 pm to
Just to update this thread, we're at nearly 65k deaths from Corona.

So 35k deaths from 1/1 - 3/30.


30k from 3/31 - 4/4.
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