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re: Why I think this coronavirus “pandemic” is bull shite

Posted on 4/3/20 at 10:08 pm to
Posted by Asharad
Tiamat
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 4/3/20 at 10:08 pm to
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Influenza kills 50-70,000 a year in this country
Applying OT logic, those numbers are inflated. Most died of a pre-existing condition while testing positive for the flu.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 4/3/20 at 10:11 pm to
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And now 4 days later there are 60k deaths. Almost like we are at the beginning of this thing still.



Yeah, his post had the opposite impact on me than he wanted, and I don't know what to think of this virus. The fact that his graph shows 30k+ deaths over 3 months but then we damn near doubled that number in 3 days is crazy.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
35287 posts
Posted on 4/3/20 at 10:14 pm to
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Applying OT logic, those numbers are inflated. Most died of a pre-existing condition while testing positive for the flu.



I love the muh flu people because they don't trust the expert models on COVID but readily take the expert models on yearly flu numbers as gospel. They skip over the part that our "numbers" on the flu are based on models.


Also they simultaneously believe that the flu killed X number of people this season, but also that Corona has been throughout the US since December and no one died from it.
Posted by Privateer 2007
Member since Jan 2020
6147 posts
Posted on 4/3/20 at 10:17 pm to
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I didn't bring up losing jobs. he did.


That's fair.
Posted by Earthquake 88
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Posted on 4/4/20 at 4:05 am to
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Applying OT logic, those numbers are inflated. Most died of a pre-existing condition while testing positive for the flu.


Most died of pre-existing conditions? Inflated numbers? Sounds just like coronavirus deaths. These same pre-existing conditions are killing covid-19 victims. In 1957 (US population was 176 million) and 1968 (US population was 201 million). They had 116,000 Americans die in 1957 from a pandemic flu and similar deaths in 1968 and the entire country did not shut down nor did people even talk much about it. frick sakes some of you people are fricking idiots. This is not the first pandemic flu virus to hit this country and we didn’t shut the country down nor did we burden future generations with paying off this virus debt because the media and our politicians are dumb asses. The people that can work from home should, help our elderly the best we can, wash our hands, don’t hang out in crowds, use common sense, and get this country back to work!
This post was edited on 4/4/20 at 11:13 am
Posted by Curtis Lowe
Member since Dec 2019
1260 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 5:14 am to
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In 1957 (US population was 176 million) and 1968 (US population was 201 million). They had 116 million Americans die in 1957 from a pandemic flu and similar deaths in 1968


Not even close. 2/3 (116 million/176 million) of the US population did not die from the flu in 1957. Actually, according to Encyclopadia Britannica only 1 to 2 million died world wide. Britiannic Link. Roughly 116,000 died in the US per the CDC estimate CDC Link with most estimates in the 70,000 range for deaths in the US.

The 1968 flu pandemic death estimates is 1 to 4 million world wide LINK with a CDC estimate of 100,000 CDC Link with most estimates in the US of 34,000 deaths.
This post was edited on 4/4/20 at 5:16 am
Posted by Ham Malone
Member since Nov 2010
2510 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 6:28 am to
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frick sakes some of you people are fricking idiots.


Judging by the stats you quoted, you’re the leader of the fricking idiot brigade.
Posted by back9Tiger
Mandeville, LA.
Member since Nov 2005
14130 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 6:34 am to
Ok, it’s official, you’re a dumb arse.
Posted by Yak
DuPage County
Member since May 2014
4672 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 7:45 am to
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In 1957 (US population was 176 million)
quote:

They had 116 million Americans die in 1957 from a pandemic flu
You might want to check those numbers
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
65617 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 8:10 am to
Hold up. The graphics in the OP are compiled how? Smoking? Malaria? Alcohol? Communicable Diseases? Abortion?

There are stats on these things now, worldwide no less, but Corona is still huge unknown?

Yeah. This makes so much Facebook sense.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 8:13 am to
No better way to out yourself as a fricking idiot than posting a meme you found on Facebook as a reason for not believing the experts on a subject,
This post was edited on 4/4/20 at 8:15 am
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51892 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 8:18 am to
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These same pre-existing conditions are killing covid-19 victims. In 1957 (US population was 176 million) and 1968 (US population was 201 million). They had 116 million Americans die in 1957 from a pandemic flu


How the frick can you actually type that out and not have alarm bells ringing?

“65% of the US DIED in 1957, and we were fine. I’m fact, we had mass immigration to bring the population up a net 15% just 10 years later (only for half of them to die in the next outbreak).”

This is warhammer 40k levels of numbness to tragedy.
This post was edited on 4/4/20 at 8:19 am
Posted by BRIllini07
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2015
3012 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 8:21 am to
I personally like how we know the global number of abortions for an arbitrary period (one day short of 3 months for some reason) - down to the last significant figure.
Posted by MojoGuyPan
Intercession City, Florida
Member since Jun 2018
2797 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 8:32 am to
Quake88, you saying that we shouldn't worry until we have a death toll of 227 million in the US?
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51892 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 8:42 am to
I’m assuming they took 2019 per day averages and multiplied it by the number of days in this window.
Posted by Asharad
Tiamat
Member since Dec 2010
5684 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 8:55 am to
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I’m assuming they took 2019 per day averages and multiplied it by the number of days in this window.
Probably, but they didn't apply the same method to COVID.

I'd like to see statistics for only the month of March, with no funky dunky math applied.
Posted by SpartyGator
Detroit Lions fan
Member since Oct 2011
75341 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 8:57 am to
OP is bull shite
Posted by Earthquake 88
Mobile
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 4/4/20 at 11:16 am to
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Not even close. 2/3 (116 million/176 million) of the US population did not die from the flu in 1957.


116,000 not 116 million. I meant to say thousand not million. And if that many die in this country so be it the country needs to get back to work.

When people think of 1957 they think of a 1957 Chevy. Not a pandemic flu that killed 116,000 people.

In 1968, the year of another similar pandemic, people think of Vietnam protest, music, and drugs. Not some damn flu that killed over 100,000 people.
This post was edited on 4/4/20 at 11:25 am
Posted by Earthquake 88
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Posted on 4/4/20 at 11:41 am to
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Quake88, you saying that we shouldn't worry until we have a death toll of 227 million in the US?


Fixed my numbers. Meant to say 116,000 not 116 million. So adjusting my math I’m prepared to lose 116,000 people to this coronavirus in a country of 330 million to put America back to work. No way in hell though that 100,000 people die of this damn virus in our country. I call BS on the media.
Posted by HarryBalzack
Member since Oct 2012
15220 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 11:57 am to
So you think that the president and vice president have been persuaded to tank the national economy for bullshite reasons and that the entire public health apparatus of the Western world is screaming in unison for stay at home orders based on bullshite?

Noted.

What have you done with your epidemiology degree since graduation? Sounds like the CDC, NIH, and USPHS could use your help.
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