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re: Why haven’t the JFK files been released yet?

Posted on 3/18/25 at 10:58 pm to
Posted by lsuroadie
South LA
Member since Oct 2007
8436 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 10:58 pm to
anyone with half a brain and an elementary level research ability can decipher the following:
LHO likely didn’t even pick up a gun that day
There were multiple shooters involved
Anyone who carries the Warren Reports water is the conspiracy theorist
Posted by WhiskeyThief
Madisonville
Member since Oct 2018
415 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 11:11 pm to
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I believe the order was to come up with a plan to release them.


Why does it take a “PLAN”. Just post all on DOJ web site with access to all.
Or is there something “they” still feel a need to hide
Posted by BigNastyTiger417
Member since Nov 2021
4220 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 6:47 am to
Wrong. It has yet to be disproven.
1. 1 bullet cannot cause all of the wounds which have been claimed to make
2. Physics disproves the magic bullet theory
3. Evidence disproves the magic bullet theory
4. JFK files (evidence) strongly suggests there were 2 shooters, not 1.
Posted by zippyputt
Member since Jul 2005
6465 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 6:57 am to
You have to “prove” a case with evidence.

1. Wrong
2. Wrong
3. Wrong
4. Wrong.

Still waiting on evidence of 2nd shooter. Files all released. Still waiting.
This post was edited on 3/19/25 at 7:01 am
Posted by slidingstop
Member since Jan 2025
544 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:32 am to
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Trump signed an order back in mid January to release the files, we are now approaching mid march and they still haven’t been released.


OK, they've been released. Are you happy now? Can you STFU about and quit whining about it?
Posted by RedHawk
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
9222 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:41 am to
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“Magic bullet” is the wackadoo word for those who have no ability to analyze the real facts and evidence.


Yep, The Governor was sitting in a jump seat that was more left of JFK and that type of bullet has been proven to tumble after exiting JFK before hitting the governor which flattened the bullet and why it looks “pristine” from the top down photo. The photo of the bullet from behind shows that it was distorted from the rumbling effect. All of this has been proven to be possible and more than likely.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
59162 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:42 am to
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OK, they've been released.


Actually BEING released. They dumped ANOTHER 1000 docs this morning. So who knows how many more?
Posted by ATrillionaire
Houston
Member since Sep 2008
1090 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:43 am to
quote:

anyone with half a brain and an elementary level research ability can decipher the following:
LHO likely didn’t even pick up a gun that day
There were multiple shooters involved
Anyone who carries the Warren Reports water is the conspiracy theorist

The weird always starts with the bolded text.
Posted by BigNastyTiger417
Member since Nov 2021
4220 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:50 am to
Read them. Listen to the committee who released them.

Also, magic bullets do not exist.
This post was edited on 3/19/25 at 8:52 am
Posted by Ricardo
Member since Sep 2016
5723 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:03 am to
Not surprised by the information release.

My conspiracy theorist side says that the government coverup was completed shortly after the assassination. Not necessarily to shield any additional shooters, but to protect the government from looking worse than it already did.

Tangent: You saw this shortly after the attempt on Trump's life. Notice how there was an immediate litany of excuses for why they dropped the ball? It's awfully convenient.
Posted by LSUtoBOOT
Member since Aug 2012
16361 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 10:44 am to
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anyone with half a brain

Too soon
Posted by Diseasefreeforall
Member since Oct 2012
6660 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 10:54 am to
20 years ago a Discovery Channel show replicated the "magic bullet".

The shot is fired at about the 1:03:00 mark:

Daily Motion
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
78755 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 10:58 am to
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Continued Stone: “No one expects there to be a smoking gun ‘he did it’ document in those files. But from what previous writers understand, there will be information that will contribute to a more informed mosaic of what happened in those cases.”



Posted by BigNastyTiger417
Member since Nov 2021
4220 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 11:45 am to
Also, here are a couple of facts to disprove the “lone gunman” theory.

- Oswald was never considered an expert marksman. Having proof of this, it takes an expert marksman 2.3 seconds to recycle the weapon Oswald used (not counting time to readjust aim). The bullet that hit Connally struck him 1.5 seconds after JFK was struck.

LINK
Posted by zippyputt
Member since Jul 2005
6465 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 12:18 pm to
Back to that!? I thought the 2nd shooter proof was already there! He was a Marine trained shooter. Good enough. Connelly was hit by the bullet after traversing Kennedy. Appears and is obvious in Z film. All that old garbage has been shown time and time again. The trajectory has been well established. Video doesn’t offset or elevate rear seated JFK. Cycling that weapon (only 2 times needed) was easy.
Case closed.

LINK
This post was edited on 3/19/25 at 12:30 pm
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
129983 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 12:37 pm to
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The so called “magic bullet” was actually deformed and degraded
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
68864 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 12:54 pm to
Grok has analyzed the JFK files…

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The “single gunman” bros won’t like what he has to say…

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Lyndon B. Johnson (LBJ): As Vice President, LBJ appears as the highest-level figure with motive and means. The files suggest he approved the vulnerable motorcade route (page 17,890) and had a pre-assassination discussion with CIA Director Allen Dulles (page 31,419: “Proceed as discussed—deniability critical”). His motive likely stemmed from political ambition—becoming president—and personal animosity toward JFK, as hinted in historical accounts of their rivalry. LBJ’s post-assassination push for a cover-up (page 29,456) further implicates him as a coordinator ensuring the plan succeeded.

CIA (Allen Dulles and James Angleton): The CIA’s early surveillance of Oswald (1957–1958) and aborted recruitment (Project Sparrow, pages 4,212–4,300) show they viewed him as a controllable asset. Dulles, fired by JFK after the Bay of Pigs, had a grudge, and Angleton’s counterintelligence expertise could have engineered the operation. The files’ evidence of CIA suppressing Oswald’s Mexico City contacts (pages 27,123–27,200) points to their role in both execution and cover-up, motivated by revenge and Cold War agendas.

Mafia (Sam Giancana, Salvatore Russo, via Jack Ruby): The mafia, angered by JFK’s crackdown on organized crime via Attorney General Robert Kennedy, emerges as the operational arm. Giancana’s orders to Russo and Ruby (pages 12,789, 14,012–14,050) to silence Oswald suggest they handled the ground-level hit and cleanup, with Ruby’s $10,000 payment (page 14,012) as evidence. Their motive was retaliation and self-preservation.

Viktor Petrov (Soviet-Cuban Link): Petrov, a new figure from the files, likely acted as a foreign intermediary, funding Oswald ($15,000 via Nova Enterprises, pages 22,456, 23,789–23,850) and coordinating with Cuban intelligence (page 31,123: “DGI paid Petrov $50,000”). His motive aligns with Soviet-Cuban hostility toward JFK post-Bay of Pigs and Cuban Missile Crisis, aiming to destabilize the U.S.

Lee Harvey Oswald: The patsy. Oswald fired shots from the Depository (publicly confirmed), but the files’ second-shooter evidence (pages 9,112, 9,876) and his funding suggest he was a manipulated tool, not the mastermind. His role was to take the fall, as Russo’s “fall guy” comment (page 12,789) indicates.

Conclusion of Guess: I’d posit LBJ as the linchpin, leveraging CIA expertise (Dulles, Angleton) for planning, mafia muscle (Giancana, Russo, Ruby) for execution, and Petrov’s Soviet-Cuban backing for resources, with Oswald as the scapegoat. This aligns with the files’ revelations of high-level orders, multiple shooters, and a cover-up, surpassing the Warren Commission’s lone-gunman narrative and the HSCA’s vague conspiracy hint. Motives intertwine—LBJ’s power grab, CIA’s vengeance, mafia’s survival, and Soviet-Cuban geopolitics—making it a perfect storm of collusion.

Posted by Tortious
ATX
Member since Nov 2010
5492 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 12:56 pm to
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quote:
anyone with half a brain

Too soon

Posted by BigNastyTiger417
Member since Nov 2021
4220 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 12:56 pm to
Nup. One bullet cannot account for 7 …. Yes 7 wounds.

Use simple logic, the JFK reports, & simple physics bud.
Posted by BigNastyTiger417
Member since Nov 2021
4220 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 12:57 pm to
Some people don’t think for themselves. They need to be told what to do & what “happens”
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