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re: Why don’t they make brake lights get brighter the harder you press?

Posted on 1/10/24 at 9:10 pm to
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 1/10/24 at 9:10 pm to
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Maybe with self driving vehicles it’s moot but it seems like we could have done this years ago. It would be nice to know if the guy in front of me is tapping his brakes or slamming them down.

Maybe it could go from an orange to a dark red. How has nobody gotten on this?


BMW has had multi-stage brake lights on some of their cars for ~20 years. I think the US only got 2 stage at most, the rest of the world got 3 stage brake lights that worked like this:

1. normal braking had brake lights and CHMSL

2. hard braking had brake lights, CHMSL and rear fogs (flashing CHMSL in regions with no rear fogs)

3. ABS triggered braking had brake lights, flashing CHMSL and flashing rear fogs (fast flashing CHMSL in regions with no rear fogs).

This was part of the basic dealer programming when you picked up the car and many dealers didn't even discuss it and left it deactivated.

Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 1/10/24 at 9:29 pm to
Good idea, but instead of getting brighter they should blink. The harder you brake, the more rapidly they should flash.
Posted by Tvilletiger
PVB
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 1/10/24 at 9:33 pm to
This is a great idea
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
8374 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 9:42 pm to
I think its a great idea. How I would do it:

1. Have the 2 main lights stay as is

2. Have LED light bar on top and it would light up left to right based on pressure applied, kind of like a volume bar.

In rush hour this would be helpful. Or when behind a bigger vehicle and can’t see cars ahead of them.
Posted by Jdiggy
Member since Nov 2016
610 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 9:49 pm to
Yeah. There definitely should be a light that’s pressure sensitive but it should be on the dashboard so my wife can see and not tell me that I should be stopping.
Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 1/10/24 at 9:53 pm to
If you clowns could drive, had any sense of depth perception and an attention span longer than your peckers, and wouldn’t dick around in your phones in traffic you wouldn’t think this way.
Posted by ItSawGood
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2015
324 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 9:54 pm to
Good point. Not all braking is made equal
Posted by Tortious
ATX
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 1/10/24 at 10:04 pm to
The third brake light should do this with flashing as necessary.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
25706 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 10:06 pm to
BTW here video of an E90 BMW (so sometime between 2005 and 2011 production) that has got Dynamic Brake Force Display programmed to be on:

Youtube

Anyone with a relatively modern BMW can get code this in but I can't say 100% what if any DOT issues it might cause. The DOT is the reason we don't get rear fog lights on cars from Europe.

Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 1/10/24 at 10:07 pm to
Stop following so close, dumbass.
Posted by Tarps99
Lafourche Parish
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 1/10/24 at 10:21 pm to
Wait until you find out that with an electric car and regenitve braking you don’t press the brakes as often to stop and you essentially have one pedal operation of a car.

But I have a different take on the braking, instead of just one light with different intensities for various braking modes how about something like a light bar that shows the level of intensity of the brake, in an led line. One or two lights or line in the middle means light braking covering a third of the back, more lights covering 2/3 of the line moderate braking, a full line shows heavy, full intensity braking or emergency brake is engaged.

This might be easier to understand than a subjective light intensity brightness scale.

Any way with computerized monitoring sensors and new communications protocols sending telemetry data to the cars around you, the braking information will likely be shared wirelessly to your cars data and apply the brakes when needed so you don’t have to.

I just saw something this week that some new cars even have some data collection modules that can receive signals from some lights that will send out to cars how much longer the light will stay red before turning green.


Posted by PGAOLDBawNeVaBroke
Member since Dec 2023
711 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 10:23 pm to
BMW has intensity lighting depending on how hard you break, at least they used too
Posted by A Menace to Sobriety
Member since Jun 2018
29141 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 10:35 pm to
I always thought this. They make headlights bright as frick, when it should be the taillights that are bright. The exact opposite what it should be.
Posted by sqerty
AP
Member since May 2022
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Posted on 1/11/24 at 2:42 am to
I do a double tap before the light sometimes.
Posted by Undertow
Member since Sep 2016
7323 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 3:27 am to
Everyone would get tired of it quick. Sitting in traffic with bright red all around you.
Posted by PenguinNinja
Antarctica (and Japan)
Member since Sep 2011
2082 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 3:27 am to
Great question. Been wondering this for some time!
Posted by TheGasMan
Member since Oct 2014
3144 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 3:42 am to
quote:

Wait until you find out that with an electric car and regenitve braking you don’t press the brakes as often to stop and you essentially have one pedal operation of a car. But I have a different take on the braking, instead of just one light with different intensities for various braking modes how about something like a light bar that shows the level of intensity of the brake, in an led line. One or two lights or line in the middle means light braking covering a third of the back, more lights covering 2/3 of the line moderate braking, a full line shows heavy, full intensity braking or emergency brake is engaged. This might be easier to understand than a subjective light intensity brightness scale. Any way with computerized monitoring sensors and new communications protocols sending telemetry data to the cars around you, the braking information will likely be shared wirelessly to your cars data and apply the brakes when needed so you don’t have to. I just saw something this week that some new cars even have some data collection modules that can receive signals from some lights that will send out to cars how much longer the light will stay red before turning green.


I agree with you. What a great word salad trying to appear like Mr. 2024. No one is going to read that shite and take it to heart on TD.

Why should lights need to get brighter? As long as you’re not some drunk coonass coming up from cutoff that can’t see some tail lights .25 miles away.

But when every blowhard has an EV like poster above, the differential gps will have us all locked in unless, godforbid, one of the 2 gps’s in your vehicle goes down and there’s no heading.
This post was edited on 1/11/24 at 3:51 am
Posted by Bama and Beer
Baldwin Co, AL
Member since Oct 2010
80923 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 3:44 am to
Because they would all be dark red all the time, especially for women drivers smashing on their brakes at the last second
Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
20246 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 5:03 am to
quote:

Why don’t they make brake lights get brighter the harder you press?


Yes I was trying to think of a concept for graduated brake lighting where the harder you pressed, the higher up a scale it went. Makes no sense to have them at an all or nothing setting as they are now.
Posted by LsuFan_1955
Slidell, La
Member since Jul 2013
1755 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 5:13 am to
Why, so they can add another 10 grand to the price?
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