re: Why does the FDA allow such harmful ingredients.

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Because it’s cheap as frick in bulk at Costco and my kids like it

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Congrats on giving them diabetes and obesity.

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Also why does the FDA allow flavored liquor, beers, and literal candy weed products…but vapes can’t be flavored. I don’t vape, it just makes zero sense to me

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it’s even dumber than this.

You can’t have flavored vapes with removable cartridges (aka Juul) but it can be flavored if it’s a disposable/single use vape. So you can’t buy a mango juul pod from a convenience store but you can buy some no name blue raspberry fizzle or cotton candy vape from China from some sketchy vape shop

Pre Covid moms had to find their new outrage du jour and the media happily threw vapes and “vape lung” out there. The government had to do “something”, so in typical government fashion they did something useless and illogical.

You realize a lot of regulations are due to emotion or money, and not logic

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If you look at food content in other countries, they don’t have all the dyes, trisodium phosphates, and other crap that’s in our food. What is the purpose of the FDA if they are allowing all this crap.

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Simple…because we want cheap food that looks pretty and tastes good. You can get plenty of food that is certified “organic”, but it will not be as pretty and it damn sure won’t be inexpensive.

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That’s not a totally accurate portrayal of facts though. Many items don’t have to be listed as ingredients in the U.K. (or elsewhere) so you end up with an abbreviated list.

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Like we used to have here until companies were legally required to list specific ingredients. HFC is technically sugar and could be listed under sugar potentially like it used to be in the US. I know this because as a child(in the 70s) I was allergic to corn and the allergist told us that we needed to avoid things like soda because they used corn sugar rather than cane sugar or beet sugar, even though the label said sugar. Dr. Pepper (at the time) was a notable exception.

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It keeps the hospitals thus big pharma in business. A patient cured is a patient lost.

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NAILED IT

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If you look at food content in other countries, they don’t have all the dyes, trisodium phosphates, and other crap that’s in our food. What is the purpose of the FDA if they are allowing all this crap.

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I don't want the FDA to tell anyone they can't have those things.

Alcohol is harmful too, would you agree with them banning alcohol too?


People can decide for themselves.

I agree, and in shite where it’s not even needed, like barbecue sauce

Control an suppression of the silent majority.

In 1900, just under 40 percent of the total US population lived on farms, and 60 percent lived in rural areas. Today, the respective figures are only about 1 percent and 20 percent.

The flyover states had too much independence and demanded political attention, the farmers in California were opposing the teamster union's control of workers. Numerous strikes occurred and were defeated and in the wake of some widespread devastating droughts the family farm as we knew it was wiped out. Forclosues were weaponized, remember Farm Aid?. Corporate farming became the new American agriculture. Family farms that survived were paid not to farm if they would enter the soil and water conservation program. Plant trees or grasses on your land and stop working yourself to death. Welfare for farmers.

The result. In the 80's Agricultural communities throughout the Midwest and across the nation were devastated. Families were forced from the land, lenders collapsed, and businesses on rural main streets closed—many to never reopen. It was a decade of turmoil and of activism.

Today those communities are without exception meth cooking, drug trafficking welfare communities.

The real working farms that remain are large acerage LLCs in most cases with very few local jobs involved. Any other farms that you find are hobby farms , striving to keep the knowledge and skills alive, but a second income is almost always needed to survive as the farm is not enough to live on.

Those large corporations provide credit to the farmers and control the processing and distribution of their product as well as the lobbying in Washington that controls the FDA.

Corporations like Tyson now produces your chicken, and companies like Archer Daniels Midland produces oils and meal from soybeans, cottonseed, sunflower seeds, canola, peanuts, flaxseed, Palm kernel, and DAG oil, as well as corn germ, corn gluten feed pellets, syrup, starch, glucose, dextrose, crystalline dextrose, high fructose corn syrup sweeteners, chocolate, ethanol, and wheat flour.

We eat what is available, and if you eat from a grocery store the only thing available has been processed and produced in a corporate environment that places harvest yields, shipping durability, visual appeal, ripeness controls, and preservation above quality and wholesomeness.

It is only available if there is a market for it.

If you are lucky to live in a community that has a farmers market, shop there instead of any grocery store chain you can name. You will find heirloom varieties that never make it to a grocery store because shipping would destroy them. Learn to cook with staples like flour, beans rice, bacon fat, lard, real butter and whole milk. Many of these are still in their original form for the most part. Unless you have a cow to milk and a windmill to grind your own flour you will still have to use some processed products but they will not be adulterated other than being bleached or paturized and fortified with vitamins.

Buy beef, pork from a butcher in bulk, and a upright freezer, even if you have to drive a long way to find one that sells a half beef processed the way you want. Many raise your steer themselves and harvest when it reaches the desired marbling or fat content. Go halves with a neighbor if you can't afford a whole side of beef. Raise your own chickens if you can or get them from a hobby farmer.

Go hunting orfishing or source from a local hunter or fisherman you know.

That is how they do it in Italy.

You do not have to bend the knee.

Many other countries don’t put everything on the label like we do. Ours will read tomato sauce then list everything that’s in the tomato sauce. Other countries will just list tomato sauce. That’s not saying the US doesn’t have a lot more of those ingredients but comparing labels can be misleading.