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re: Why does LSU admissions take Louisiana kids for granted?

Posted on 7/16/25 at 3:00 pm to
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
35783 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 3:00 pm to
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because they charge more for out of state tuition


This is the correct answer. In state residents are forced to pay taxes that fund the school whether they go there or not. Out of state tuition is more money for the school and international students is more money than out of state students. So they go for the money.

Acknowledging that in-state residents were likely paying into the University of Wisconsin system for decades, the schools would require a certain percentage of admissions to be Wisconsin residents. A noble and understandable position...reward the people who have been supporting you (forcibly) with more access. But as tuitions have skyrocketed and schools continue to need to spend more, those requirements have relaxed and we see this (note the 72.5% requirement lifting in 2015) :



I don't know how they were able to get that through, but it's bullshite and hurts the residents of the state. Cool, the school is charging a lot more but the value of the school to Wisconsin residents continues to decline, and the state pays the price as out of state and international students are more likely to go back where they came from and you see the state getting dumber because of it.

I know this is an LSU thread, but the idea is the same.
This post was edited on 7/16/25 at 3:10 pm
Posted by CWilken21
Gnawlins
Member since Mar 2005
4120 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 3:00 pm to
Alabama and Ole Miss most recent freshmen classes were more than 60% out of state. LSU is at 40% has basically tripled since 2016.
Posted by DakIsNoLB
Member since Sep 2015
1234 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 3:03 pm to
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My youngest ended up at Miss State because LSU waited forever to accept her.



Hail State! Don't let her convert though. It's no fun rooting for MSU in the fall.
Posted by tigerbait2010
PNW
Member since May 2006
32827 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 3:03 pm to
I like LSU has caught up with Alabama and Ole Miss for out of state kids, but I wish they did a much better job keeping the best in Louisiana for sure.

Feels like Arkansas dominates the Shreveport area these days.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
88431 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 3:04 pm to
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Feels like Arkansas dominates the Shreveport area these days.


always have, atm too
Posted by whoa
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
5794 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 3:05 pm to
This isn’t exclusive to LSU and they’ve been doing it for decades now.
Posted by Thecoz
Member since Dec 2018
3838 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 3:06 pm to
TOPS is no where near a free ride

Ok ok just a subsidies from other peoples taxes

Y’all are mad about SNAP being reduced also .. right
Posted by tigerbait2010
PNW
Member since May 2006
32827 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 3:07 pm to
I graduated in 2010. LSU still got a huge chunk of the kids followed by Arkansas and Ole Miss. like 70% of the Loyola class went to Arkansas a few years ago.

Arkansas and Ole Miss waived my OOS in high school. Would have gone but LSU was basically free with TOPs
Posted by metallica81788
NO
Member since Sep 2008
10043 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 3:09 pm to
It's really crazy because it wasn't necessarily this way in the past
I entered LSU in 2006 and received TOPS plus a basically full ride with stipend scholarship. They must not be offering that particular one anymore combined with mandating room and board for freshmen to live on campus.

Sad to see LSU losing so many good in-state students to other SEC schools for this reason
Posted by Kingpenm3
Xanadu
Member since Aug 2011
9761 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 3:10 pm to
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or charge $45000 for an out-of-state kid.........


Can you imagine toting a $200k note to get an undergrad degree from LSU?
Posted by turnpiketiger
Member since May 2020
11988 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 3:12 pm to
Just identify as a minority. They’ll give you a free ride for sure.

How they gonna prove you wrong? You can’t tell me I’m not black. I identify as black so you better respect that!
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
16534 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 3:13 pm to
How do you know the race of the OP?
Posted by yaherrdme
The Place to Be
Member since Feb 2004
5882 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 3:19 pm to
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getting paid to go to Bama this fall once you add up all the things they are giving him, not just tuition....room/food/1yr abroad for a total of 5yrs/plus a stipend. The kid is making money.


Sounds like the National Merit Finalist package, Bama has one of the best in the country, it is a much superior package to anything LSU offers.. Also Bamas other scholarships are top notch too. Hit a 32 on the ACT with a good GPA, and Bama costs about the same as LSU with TOPs.. My deal is TOPs is, it is never guaranteed, legislators can change the program at anytime for any reason and then you are stuck. At least these other schools have a concrete offers.
Posted by Defenseiskey
Houston, TX
Member since Nov 2010
1694 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 3:22 pm to
Part of it too is LSU's weak endowment. Doesn't look bad on paper but once you realize how big and old LSU it is very low compared to similar universities. It is getting better bit for a long time LSU had an endowment not much better than some directional schools.

ENDOWMENTS are usually the primary pools to fund scholarships at most schools.
This post was edited on 7/16/25 at 3:25 pm
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
24748 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 3:25 pm to
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My deal is TOPs is, it is never guaranteed, legislators can change the program at anytime for any reason and then you are stuck.

Been going for over 25 years. Seems like political suicide to end the program.
This post was edited on 7/16/25 at 3:26 pm
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
13318 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 3:29 pm to
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fees are significant.

Which I saw coming and wrote into the Reveille about in the late 90s. The technology fee was the first, and fees matched or more than matched tuition precisely because it wouldn't be covered by TOPS in a few short years. Entirely predictable outcome.
Posted by TigerBaitOohHaHa
Member since Jan 2023
1770 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 3:38 pm to
Honors students can’t get into UT and go to A&M. A+ students can’t get into A&M and go to LSU and bring their $48k/yr with them . I had a whole thread about this and everyone told me I was an idiot for paying that. I said it then, this is going to be a bigger problem for Louisiana residents down the line. Just tryna warn you. Texas is seeping into every surrounding state, we’ve outgrown our own higher ed system and we are flooding into yours.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
36346 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 3:39 pm to
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These are 3.9 GPA and 30 ACT kids. LSU laughs them off.

Laughs them off? Surely they get admitted. LSU's standards aren't that high
Posted by CBDTiger
NOLA
Member since Mar 2004
1481 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 3:42 pm to
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Sounds like the National Merit Finalist package, Bama has one of the best in the country, it is a much superior package to anything LSU offers.

We had 3 graduating seniors from my son's former scout troop this year. Two had stellar grades and National Merit and are both going to Bama on full rides, plus one will have extra scholarship money for a laptop etc.

The third did well but not Natl Merit and is going to LSU, with not much beyond TOPS.
Posted by turnpiketiger
Member since May 2020
11988 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 3:43 pm to
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Texas is seeping into every surrounding state, we’ve outgrown our own higher ed system and we are flooding into yours.


Nobody wants to go to Lubbock if LSU is an option and closer to home.
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