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re: Why Do The Audubon & Gramercy Bridges Exist?
Posted on 2/11/20 at 4:45 pm to Nado Jenkins83
Posted on 2/11/20 at 4:45 pm to Nado Jenkins83
That stretch of 3127 from 20 to 70 might be one of the worst road bases in South La
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Posted on 2/11/20 at 7:06 pm to Cuz413
I know it's a wide river ,but I'm surprised to see that new Orleans only has 3 bridges that cross the Mississippi River
Posted on 2/11/20 at 7:22 pm to Nado Jenkins83
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The expressway seemed to be the downfall of the west bank.
I believe you're thinking of the Don Carter's on Manhattan.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 8:03 pm to crazycubes
I remember it being like that going see my grandparents in Reserve.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 8:36 pm to LuckyTiger
To replace Ferries as the traffic count was enough to build bridges.
Wallace Lutcher Bridge connects I-10 & Airline Hwy to LA Hwy 3127. If the state would build 3127 from I-10 around LA-415 to Hwy 70/3127 instersection it would connect major South LA highways.
FYI the state owns the land to make it happen which would help push truck traffic to the sunshine, Wallace, and I-310 bridge. It would take some stress off the I-10 bridge in BR.
It is also a major route to get people to the plants on the East or West side of the river. It also is a route to get to or from the Thibodaux and Houma.
John James Audubon bridge replaces the St Francisville/ New Roads Ferry. It helps connect Hwy 10 from I-55 to LA1 to LA-10 in Avoylles Parish to I-49. Yes, they need to improve LA Hwy 10 and parts of LA-1 to make it more attractive for commercial truck traffic to use on a regular basis.
Wallace Lutcher Bridge connects I-10 & Airline Hwy to LA Hwy 3127. If the state would build 3127 from I-10 around LA-415 to Hwy 70/3127 instersection it would connect major South LA highways.
FYI the state owns the land to make it happen which would help push truck traffic to the sunshine, Wallace, and I-310 bridge. It would take some stress off the I-10 bridge in BR.
It is also a major route to get people to the plants on the East or West side of the river. It also is a route to get to or from the Thibodaux and Houma.
John James Audubon bridge replaces the St Francisville/ New Roads Ferry. It helps connect Hwy 10 from I-55 to LA1 to LA-10 in Avoylles Parish to I-49. Yes, they need to improve LA Hwy 10 and parts of LA-1 to make it more attractive for commercial truck traffic to use on a regular basis.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 9:06 pm to oleheat
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If you ever try to drive across the river in those places without using them, you'll know why.
Well yeah, you'll surely sink if you can even make it over the levee.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 9:14 pm to LuckyTiger
Bottom pic, Edwin had a hand in the bridge to nowhere. That’s a dated pic, the road had since been extended, he was a visionary.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 9:46 pm to LuckyTiger
For industry, federal funds, and because all politics are local.
This post was edited on 2/11/20 at 9:47 pm
Posted on 2/11/20 at 9:48 pm to LuckyTiger
They help plant workers. At least the Gramercy Bridge does; not sure about Audubon.
The BR bridge should be widened so that it doesn't go down to 1 lane.
But any further bridge would be a commuter bridge and that should mean tolls....if you want it, you pay for it (which I would gladly do).
The BR bridge should be widened so that it doesn't go down to 1 lane.
But any further bridge would be a commuter bridge and that should mean tolls....if you want it, you pay for it (which I would gladly do).
This post was edited on 2/11/20 at 9:51 pm
Posted on 2/12/20 at 11:46 am to tigerinthebueche
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dude, no one was clamoring for a new bridge in the BR Metro when the AB was funded or built. The WTF moments all came after traffic in the metro area was so insufferable. But the AB was either under construction or damn near ready to start by then.
That is woefully incorrect. In the early 90's I can remember being stuck every day on the "new bridge" trying to get to work (and that was before you had any growth at all north of Brusly High School). Even then people were talking about the need for another bridge for Baton Rouge. (at that time the desire was to put it around Brusly)
How old are you? I ask not in snark but rather because I can remember back even in the 80's when people were indeed clamoring for a new Baton Rouge bridge (my grandfather and many of his co-workers lived in White Castle and worked in Baton Rouge so I heard about it often) so for you to say no one was wanting another Baton Rouge bridge prior to the Audubon Bridge's funding/construction is just plain wrong.
At the time of the TIMED Program's passage (1989) there was even less of a need for a bridge where the Audubon now sits. Hell, Hwy 61 was still 2-laned I believe.
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Moreover, every time the discussion about a new bridge, loop, or anything else comes up the local politicians all start arguing about where to put it. I've watched LP, IP, and WBR all shite on the idea of anything new cause its not routed where the politicians want it.
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They can't even get out of their own way to get a solution. And that doesn't even address all the other issues (like funding) that are in the way.
NIMBY-ism does not preclude the desire for a new Baton Rouge bridge. That same political aspect is not only why we have the Audubon Bridge but why a new Baton Rouge bridge wasn't built first.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 11:49 am to Overbrook
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The BR bridge should be widened so that it doesn't go down to 1 lane.
That's actually coming with the next phase of construction. The first thing they had to do was move the Washington Street exit to the other side of the interstate before they could begin extending that lane down to the 10-12 split (and adding a lane in the opposite direction as well).
Not sure when the next phase is slated to begin though.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 11:53 am to LuckyTiger
I think the one in Gramercy was built and had no access to it. Named “The Bridge to Nowhere”.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 11:53 am to Bard
There is plenty of land to build another bridge from one side to the other. But you would be destroying people's lives in the process. I know one thing that would help is building another bridge over the Smite from BR to DS. Plenty of land and ways to access major roads.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 11:55 am to johnnyrocket
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FYI the state owns the land to make it happen which would help push truck traffic to the sunshine, Wallace, and I-310 bridge. It would take some stress off the I-10 bridge in BR
I don't think it becomes that viable until they widen it from the Intracoastal to Plaquemine and then come up with a straighter route through Plaquemine and widen it from White Castle through Donaldsonville. At that point I think it could help push even more growth on the west side of the river but it will still be stymied without a bridge around St. Gabriel (especially if that bridge isn't seen as being part of an eventual southern loop).
Posted on 2/12/20 at 11:56 am to Nicky Parrish
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I think the one in Gramercy was built and had no access to it. Named “The Bridge to Nowhere”.
I think you might be confusing it with the Sunshine Bridge.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 11:57 am to Bard
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think you might be confusing it with the Sunshine Bridge.
I stand corrected.
This post was edited on 2/12/20 at 11:59 am
Posted on 2/12/20 at 11:59 am to dukke v
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There is plenty of land to build another bridge from one side to the other. But you would be destroying people's lives in the process.
Whose life would be "destroyed"? I think you're overplaying the drama on that.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 12:01 pm to Nicky Parrish
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think you might be confusing it with the Sunshine Bridge.
I stand corrected.
No you were correct first time. Sunshine been around much longer. Gramercy was bridge to nowhere.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 12:10 pm to Bard
If you know your local history both the sunshine and the veterans bridges were known as bridge to nowhere. Sunshine was built by Jimmie Davis and it literally ended at gravel roads along the levee. Every one thought our singing Governor was an idiot building a big 4 lane state of the art(back then) bridge there. It was empty cane field. Now its a well used corridor and has lots of industry there on the river because of it. I like to think that seeing its success Edwards wanted a piece of it. The veterans bridge in Gramacy is proceeding well I think. It already is a great emergency route and If they 4 lane 3127 all the way from 70 to 90 and extend the bridge road through the swamp to Thibodeaux The vision will be complete. I hope it will happen but doubt I'll live to see it
Posted on 2/12/20 at 12:14 pm to LuckyTiger
could easily make gramercy part of the loop...
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