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re: Why do people say Louisiana lacks an educated workforce

Posted on 1/25/17 at 9:38 am to
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 1/25/17 at 9:38 am to
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Because even some people that come out with masters degrees have such little insight on how to get a job that they feel a need to constantly start new topics on the internet asking for advice and/or complaining when they do finally get a job



Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
45118 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 9:39 am to
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It's because our state politicians take money that's dedicated to education and spend it on dumb stuff.
The ole Louisiana 'general fund'. Its basically a legal Ponzi. Tax money collected under the guise of specific purposes should be required to be used for that specific purpose. The general fund lets these fricks do whatever they want.
Posted by Restomod
Member since Mar 2012
13493 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 9:41 am to
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While I agree with you 100%, people on here will say that public education in TX is average at best.



And those people are called idiots.
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34216 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 9:44 am to
You need to start investing in K-12 education first.

A school teacher in Houston told me almost all students coming from Louisiana will need a tutor for 6 months to a year and that's including private schools as well.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
70414 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 9:44 am to
One of the other problems is that our private sector white collar employers are mostly multi-nationals or based in Houston. Most louisiana graduates want to stay in Louisiana, but are often forced to go to Houston to start their careers because those companies have their entry level positions out of state. Those same companies also tend to only promote people working locally who will go to Houston.

They cannot comprehend that a large percentage of their workforce in Louisiana wants to live there perminantly, to the point that they will turn down promotions or take jobs with less pay just to remain here.
Posted by Bailcracker
Member since Dec 2016
15 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 9:49 am to
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There is absolutely no other major economy other than deforestation or oil, which are both down at the moment.


You're leaving a major player out. Louisiana's chemical manufacturing industry is very strong and for the most part insulated from oil related downturns.
Posted by the4thgen
Dallas, tx
Member since Sep 2010
1849 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 9:53 am to
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Why would graduates stay after they complete their degree?


THIS

This is the root of the problem the OP poses. The vast majority of the quality educated workforce leaves Louisiana upon graduation (myself included, who lives in Texas and works for a company started in Louisiana). The incentives to stay in Louisiana vs moving to other states is stunningly lopsided in favor of moving for college educated people. Texas currently has three cities that each had over 140,000 people move to in 2015? Those numbers are expected to rise for each city in 2016, meaning texas gained an entire New Orleans worth of people in ONE YEAR.

Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
27902 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 9:58 am to
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While I agree with you 100%, people on here will say that public education in TX is average at best.


And those people are called idiots.




I guess everyone at the US News and World Report are idiots. Texas ranked 28th in the country last year, which is pretty much the definition of "average"

LINK

I think the populous areas of Texas probably do have great schools, but Texas is such a geographically large place that there are tons of middle-of-nowhere towns and schools that bring the numbers way down.
This post was edited on 1/25/17 at 10:00 am
Posted by Tyga Woods
South Central Jupiter Island, FL
Member since Sep 2016
42260 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 9:58 am to
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You need to start investing in K-12 education first.


Pointless when a great number of "parents" don't give a shite if their kids study and do homework. You can pay teachers as much as you want but until things change in these households it's not going to make a difference.
Posted by HippieTiger
Boulder, CO
Member since Oct 2015
2197 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 10:00 am to
I use to think I was more intelligent than I really am from testing so high and outperforming my peers in the Louisiana public education system, then I moved and realized I was one of the more intelligent ones in a sea of ignorance
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
70414 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 10:01 am to
Most born in Louisiana would rather be here, but the jobs for recent grads simply are not in Louisiana. Here, they require 3-5 years experience. The employers here want their applicants to cut their teeth in Texas first, and then move back for the same job with less pay. Then, if they want a promotion, they demand they go to Houston again, and bring in out of state people rather than promote from within.

Most Louisianans just say "f$&k it" and stay in Katy, TX until they can retire and live at their camp in Louisiana.
Posted by litenin
Houston
Member since Mar 2016
2744 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 10:02 am to
I'm guessing that Texas has a lot of areas with very good public schools but the average is brought down by the lower income areas. It's a big state with a lot of both. We've been very satisfied with the public schools in The Woodlands but wouldn't consider sending our kids to many other areas of Houston.
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
27902 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 10:02 am to
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I use to think I was more intelligent than I really am from testing so high and outperforming my peers in the Louisiana public education system, then I moved and realized I was one of the more intelligent ones in a sea of ignorance


And you're only competing with CU grads...try living in a city filled with Harvard and MIT grads. Talk about humbling.
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34216 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 10:04 am to
10% of all people born in Louisiana move to Texas.

Houston growth has slowed down some, it was 75 people each day move to TX. I read its in the 50's now, but probably will tick back up soon.

Good schools, cheaper cost of living, no state income tax, but pay higher property taxes.
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
27902 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 10:04 am to
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I'm guessing that Texas has a lot of areas with very good public schools but the average is brought down by the lower income areas. It's a big state with a lot of both. We've been very satisfied with the public schools in The Woodlands but wouldn't consider sending our kids to many other areas of Houston.


That was the point I was trying to make. I have no problem believing the schools in DFW, Houston, and Austin (to name a few) are great, but if you're looking at the state as a whole's performance you can't just cherry pick the places that make you look good. And looking at Texas as a whole, it's average. Technically, just below average.
Posted by HippieTiger
Boulder, CO
Member since Oct 2015
2197 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 10:04 am to
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And you're only competing with CU grads

Quite humbling eh
Lots of CU grads but we have Google, Microsoft, Oracle, and other big time tech companies around here with people moving from literally all over the world to come here. There's grads from the Stanford's and ivy leagues of the world as well as CU
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134807 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 10:05 am to
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Why do people say Louisiana lacks an educated workforce
Have you read this board at all?
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
27902 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 10:07 am to
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Lots of CU grads but we have Google, Microsoft, Oracle, and other big time tech companies around here with people moving from literally all over the world to come here.


I'm aware, I was more making a joke. I don't actually believe the only people living in Boulder went to CU.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122093 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 10:09 am to
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We have four great major institutions (LSU, Tech, ULL, UNO)


I wouldn't go that far and use the word great. When I think of great, I think of Stanford, Ivy league schools, MIT, CAL, etc.

In terms of education, Tulane is the best place to go... That's me being realistic...

But as a Louisianian and a die hard LSU fan.. I take pride in having gone to LSU and the football is pretty damn good.
Posted by TDcline
American Gardens building 11th flor
Member since Aug 2015
9503 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 10:10 am to
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Louisiana's chemical manufacturing industry is very strong and for the most part insulated from oil related downturns.



This industry is somewhat diversified, but is largely tied-in to to O&G and the timber industry. Sure, it supplies the areas between BR and NO with some jobs, but the other 75% of the state is in turmoil right now.
This post was edited on 1/25/17 at 10:11 am
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