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re: Why do people say Louisiana lacks an educated workforce
Posted on 1/25/17 at 10:10 am to volod
Posted on 1/25/17 at 10:10 am to volod
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Why do people say Louisiana lacks an educated workforce
Because apparently an investment strategy here seems to be using low interest car loans as a vehicle to cure that short term cash flow problem.
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Posted on 1/25/17 at 10:12 am to Mudminnow
quote:Only in some subjects. My little sister went from St. Martin's to Hockaday after Katrina, and had to get tutored in Spanish and Math IIRC. Everything else was good
A school teacher in Houston told me almost all students coming from Louisiana will need a tutor for 6 months to a year and that's including private schools as well.
Posted on 1/25/17 at 10:12 am to volod
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We have four great major institutions (LSU, Tech, ULL, UNO)
Whose graduates promptly leave for Dallas, Houston, Memphis, Nashville, St. Louis, or Atlanta......
Posted on 1/25/17 at 10:16 am to Hammertime
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Only in some subjects. My little sister went from St. Martin's to Hockaday after Katrina, and had to get tutored in Spanish and Math IIRC. Everything else was good
Thats great. I have heard some horror stories of Louisiana educated children moving to Cy-fair area and they were so far behind.
Posted on 1/25/17 at 10:23 am to volod
Louisiana has the most 4 year universities per capita.
That stretches the higher education budget too thin, making the public universities unable to excel and be a major player nationally.
TOPS, while a good in theory (keep the best HS students at home) has failed in practice: average students get to go to college on the cheap for a year or so before dropping out--making all TOPS money invested in them "dead money".
The state isn't business friendly--property, sales and income tax rates prevent industries from making cities in Louisiana their centers for operations.
Consequently, the best students go to Atlanta, Houston, Dallas, Nashville to seek premium jobs.
There's still plenty of bright minds in the state, but not as many as there could/should be.
That stretches the higher education budget too thin, making the public universities unable to excel and be a major player nationally.
TOPS, while a good in theory (keep the best HS students at home) has failed in practice: average students get to go to college on the cheap for a year or so before dropping out--making all TOPS money invested in them "dead money".
The state isn't business friendly--property, sales and income tax rates prevent industries from making cities in Louisiana their centers for operations.
Consequently, the best students go to Atlanta, Houston, Dallas, Nashville to seek premium jobs.
There's still plenty of bright minds in the state, but not as many as there could/should be.
Posted on 1/25/17 at 10:27 am to Mudminnow
To be fair, she went from a top ten in LA to a top five in TX. I have been to both public and private schools in LA, and some of the public schools are years behind private schools.
I went from Kehoe to Harahan Elementary and then Riverdale in, I think, 5th grade, and we were reading 10-15 big books a year at Kehoe, and learning to read at Harahan and Riverdale. We were doing basic Algebra at Kehoe, and addition and subtraction in public schools. I literally didn't do anything all day in those public schools, and they let me because I was so far ahead of everyone.
SPS to MHS was a much more smooth transition
I went from Kehoe to Harahan Elementary and then Riverdale in, I think, 5th grade, and we were reading 10-15 big books a year at Kehoe, and learning to read at Harahan and Riverdale. We were doing basic Algebra at Kehoe, and addition and subtraction in public schools. I literally didn't do anything all day in those public schools, and they let me because I was so far ahead of everyone.
SPS to MHS was a much more smooth transition
This post was edited on 1/25/17 at 10:29 am
Posted on 1/25/17 at 10:39 am to AbitaFan08
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I guess everyone at the US News and World Report are idiots. Texas ranked 28th in the country last year, which is pretty much the definition of "average"
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I think the populous areas of Texas probably do have great schools, but Texas is such a geographically large place that there are tons of middle-of-nowhere towns and schools that bring the numbers way down.
State to state sure, it's hard to compare.
But localized area to area, suburb to suburb there is a vast difference. I went to a private school in Louisiana, and the public schools in Texas suburbs typically are superior to even most private schools in Louisiana.
Part of the problem is the best educated leave the state because of higher pay and better quality of life for the majority. .
Posted on 1/25/17 at 10:49 am to volod
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So why do we get the short end of the stick with major industries. And why do you guys feel that the state is subpar in education.
Probably because most states teach how to punctuate different kinds of sentences.
Posted on 1/25/17 at 10:50 am to Restomod
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State to state sure, it's hard to compare.
But localized area to area, suburb to suburb there is a vast difference. I went to a private school in Louisiana, and the public schools in Texas suburbs typically are superior to even most private schools in Louisiana.
But didn't you say that anyone who described Texas' public schools as average at best is an "idiot"?
This post was edited on 1/25/17 at 10:56 am
Posted on 1/25/17 at 10:52 am to dewster
quote:take a look at entry level jobs in those cities vs BR & NOLA
Whose graduates promptly leave for Dallas, Houston, Memphis, Nashville, St. Louis, or Atlanta......
The difference is, or at least should be, shocking
Posted on 1/25/17 at 10:54 am to GreatLakesTiger24
Yup, one is entry-level with level 2 pay, and the other is level 2 with entry-level pay
Posted on 1/25/17 at 11:12 am to LSURussian
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Why do people say Louisiana lacks an educated workforce
Have you read this board at all?
The first thing that popped into my head was the Poli board. Some of the most closed minded folks in the world post there.
Posted on 1/25/17 at 11:16 am to volod
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This is apocryphal.
I don't even know what that means.
Posted on 1/25/17 at 11:27 am to AbitaFan08
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But didn't you say that anyone who described Texas' public schools as average at best is an "idiot"?
If you want to compare the burbs and/or the best schools top to bottom with Louisiana, Texas is certainly not average, and ratings back that up.
Posted on 1/25/17 at 11:28 am to Restomod
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If you want to compare the burbs and/or the best schools top to bottom with Louisiana, Texas is certainly not average, and ratings back that up.
Posted on 1/25/17 at 11:31 am to Restomod
Yep. For the purposes of discussing the Louisiana brain drain, it's fair to say that part of the reason is that Texas public schools are far superior to Louisiana ones.
Sure, the Tumbleweed Plains and West Bumfrick Texas school districts probably have public schools that are just as crappy as any you'll find in East Baton Rouge parish but people aren't leaving Louisiana in droves to go to those places.
Sure, the Tumbleweed Plains and West Bumfrick Texas school districts probably have public schools that are just as crappy as any you'll find in East Baton Rouge parish but people aren't leaving Louisiana in droves to go to those places.
Posted on 1/25/17 at 11:31 am to AbitaFan08
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If you want to compare the burbs and/or the best schools top to bottom with Louisiana, Texas is certainly not average, and ratings back that up.
So you only want to compare skewed numbers that work in your favor.... Gotcha.
I take it you are a liberal?
Posted on 1/25/17 at 11:35 am to volod
have you read the posts on this board?
Posted on 1/25/17 at 11:36 am to Restomod
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If you want to compare the burbs and/or the best schools top to bottom with Louisiana, Texas is certainly not average, and ratings back that up.
That is correct, Dallas, Austin and Houston suburbs have some of the best public schools in the nation, and is also where the population concentration is.
Posted on 1/25/17 at 11:36 am to Restomod
I'm failing to see where I'm losing you.
You claimed that anyone who described Texas public schools as "average" is an idiot.
I linked a credible source that showed Texas public schools ranked 28th in the country last year.
I've yet to make a single comparison between Louisiana and Texas, because that wasn't your assertion in the original statement. FWIW, if you had said "anyone who says Texas public schools are average compared to Louisiana schools is an idiot", I would have completely agreed with you.
But I'm the one using skewed numbers?
You claimed that anyone who described Texas public schools as "average" is an idiot.
I linked a credible source that showed Texas public schools ranked 28th in the country last year.
I've yet to make a single comparison between Louisiana and Texas, because that wasn't your assertion in the original statement. FWIW, if you had said "anyone who says Texas public schools are average compared to Louisiana schools is an idiot", I would have completely agreed with you.
But I'm the one using skewed numbers?
This post was edited on 1/25/17 at 11:39 am
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