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Why do people in Nordic countries consistently rank as the happiest and what can we learn?
Posted on 3/25/24 at 10:20 am
Posted on 3/25/24 at 10:20 am
Euronews.com
Can you spot the disingenuous part of the next quote?
"Foreign born" and "homogeneous" are not mutually exclusive. The authors are using these terms dishonestly.
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Some say it’s because they are small, homogeneous, and wealthy.
Can you spot the disingenuous part of the next quote?
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And what’s more, Nordic countries are not exactly homogeneous. Around 8 per cent of the Finnish population is foreign-born, about the same percentage as in Denmark, where 7.5 per cent is foreign. That’s not that different from countries such as France, where immigrants make up around 10 per cent of the population.
"Foreign born" and "homogeneous" are not mutually exclusive. The authors are using these terms dishonestly.
This post was edited on 3/25/24 at 10:23 am
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Posted on 3/25/24 at 10:22 am to Bjorn Cyborg
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And what’s more, Nordic countries are not exactly homogenous. Around 8 per cent of the Finnish population is foreign-born, about the same percentage as in Denmark, where 7.5 per cent is foreign. That’s not that different from countries such as France, where immigrants make up around 10 per cent of the population.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 10:22 am to Bjorn Cyborg
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And what’s more, Nordic countries are not exactly homogenous. Around 8 per cent of the Finnish population is foreign-born, about the same percentage as in Denmark, where 7.5 per cent is foreign. That’s not that different from countries such as France, where immigrants make up around 10 per cent of the population.
define immigrant.
French, Swedish, Dutch, German, and Swiss immigrants to a Nordic country are very different than Sudanese immigrants to a Nordic country.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 10:22 am to Bjorn Cyborg
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Some say it’s because they are small, homogenous, and wealthy.
Go mill around in Maine and you’ll see the same thing
Posted on 3/25/24 at 10:23 am to 3nOut
Exactly.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 10:23 am to Bjorn Cyborg
The face that France has 12+ times the population of those countries?
Posted on 3/25/24 at 10:24 am to Bjorn Cyborg
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Liberal values are key: progressive taxation and freedom to make life choices
So, we’re back to money.
Researchers have come up with a strong link between progressive taxation - a tax rate that increases as the taxable amount increases - and people’s assessment of how happy they are.
Progressive taxation leads to happiness via public and common goods such as health care, education, and public transportation that the taxation helps to fund. And ultimately, you guessed it, trust. People trust the money will be used and distributed wisely.
Again, in more equal societies, people trust each other more. And social trust contributes to the building of better institutions.
this is their conclusion.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 10:24 am to 3nOut
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define immigrant.
French, Swedish, Dutch, German, and Swiss immigrants to a Nordic country are very different than Sudanese immigrants to a Nordic country.
Exactly.
"Immigrants" in Finland are from Sweden and Russia, not Africa or the Middle East.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 10:25 am to Bjorn Cyborg
A 50%+ tax rate for income over $60,000 USD?
Posted on 3/25/24 at 10:26 am to Bjorn Cyborg
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Why do people in Nordic countries consistently rank as the happiest
Why? Because Nordic women:
American women
Posted on 3/25/24 at 10:26 am to CatfishJohn
Theyre getting fatter too.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 10:26 am to Esquire
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A 50%+ tax rate for income over $60,000 USD?
Difference is in these countries, the governments actually provide a lot for everyone, not just taxing the rich as a subsidy for the indigent and people that are working the welfare system for generations.
ETA:
For the record, I am not a proponent of taxation that high
I just can't stand it when people in the US use those places as examples of high taxes working out. The demogrpahics/populations are just way too fricking different.
This post was edited on 3/25/24 at 10:35 am
Posted on 3/25/24 at 10:27 am to CatfishJohn
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"Immigrants" in Finland are from Sweden and Russia, not Africa or the Middle East.
Finnish (90.9%)
Other European (4.6%)
Asian (2.9%)
African (1.2%)
Others (0.7%)
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] As of 2022, there were 508,173 people with a foreign background living in Finland (9.1% of the population), most of whom are from the former Soviet Union, Estonia, Somalia, Iraq and former Yugoslavia.[212] The children of foreigners are not automatically given Finnish citizenship, as Finnish nationality law practices and maintain jus sanguinis policy where only children born to at least one Finnish parent are granted citizenship. If they are born in Finland and cannot get citizenship of any other country, they become citizens.[213] Additionally, certain persons of Finnish descent who reside in countries that were once part of Soviet Union, retain the right of return, a right to establish permanent residency in the country, which would eventually entitle them to qualify for citizenship.[214] 476,857 people in Finland in 2022 were born in another country, representing 8,6 % of the population. The 10 largest foreign born groups are (in order) from Russia, Estonia, Sweden, Iraq, China, Somalia, Thailand, India, Vietnam and Turkey.[215]
Posted on 3/25/24 at 10:27 am to Bjorn Cyborg
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Nordic countries consistently rank as the happiest
Posted on 3/25/24 at 10:28 am to Bjorn Cyborg
Nordic countries as well as states like Maine here are great fodder for both sides
Left team
They are happy and so well run because they are liberal
Right team
They are happy and so well run because they lack diversity
Sling shite commence
Left team
They are happy and so well run because they are liberal
Right team
They are happy and so well run because they lack diversity
Sling shite commence
This post was edited on 3/25/24 at 10:29 am
Posted on 3/25/24 at 10:28 am to CatfishJohn
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Exactly.
"Immigrants" in Finland are from Sweden and Russia, not Africa or the Middle East.
You clearly have no idea what you're talking about and have no family friends that live in "Nordic" countries and the issues they have with Pakistani/middle east/African immigration
Posted on 3/25/24 at 10:28 am to CatfishJohn
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Exactly.
"Immigrants" in Finland are from Sweden and Russia, not Africa or the Middle East.
You clearly have no idea what you're talking about and have no family friends that live in "Nordic" countries and the issues they have with Pakistani/middle east/African immigration
Posted on 3/25/24 at 10:30 am to Bjorn Cyborg
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Some say it’s because they are small, homogeneous, and wealthy.
Small, wealthy homos. Who wouldn’t be happy all the time?
Posted on 3/25/24 at 10:30 am to sidewalkside
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You clearly have no idea what you're talking about and have no family friends that live in "Nordic" countries and the issues they have with Pakistani/middle east/African immigration
They have problems with the very small group that goes there. But their 10% immigrant population is not the same as the immigrant population in France. That's the point.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 10:31 am to Bjorn Cyborg
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The authors are using these terms dishonestly
A journalist being dishonest with their reporting? Let me put on my shocked face,
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