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re: Why do people complain about "cancel culture?"

Posted on 7/22/20 at 1:08 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 7/22/20 at 1:08 pm to
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Tell me with a straight face that you believe there were 64 QBs in the NFL better than he was.


Tell me why he sabotaged his own tryouts.
Posted by PhillyFan1994
Member since Sep 2012
2032 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 1:08 pm to
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Cancel culture isn't an effort to force institutional change. It's an effort to ruin an individual, economically, politically, and publicly.

Your attempt equate this with the civil rights movement is asinine.


Throughout history people have levied consequences on an individual in order to affect institutional change. It is called deterrence. Discourage future similar behavior by punishing an individual instance of the behavior. It is used in courts, in school, and in protests. When someone posts something racist online and loses their job for it guess what the result is? People are afraid to post racist things online. Once again, no one is going to prison for this. But you may face occupational, educational, and social consequences for things you willingly post online.
Posted by Breesus
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Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 7/22/20 at 1:09 pm to
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Tell me with a straight face that you believe there were 64 QBs in the NFL better than he was.


That’s not how NFL QBs work. Cool ignorant straw man though
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 1:09 pm to
Progressives and white supremacists have far more in common than they do differences.
Posted by DomePatrol1980
Member since Mar 2018
921 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 1:10 pm to
Racist or homophobic according to who? To some people, saying "I don't think Donald Trump is the literal love child of Hitler and Satan" would be akin to being a klan member and enough to justify you getting your life destroyed.
Posted by PhillyFan1994
Member since Sep 2012
2032 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 1:11 pm to
Also, please stop acting like Kaep wasn't blacklisted for kneeling. This is a known fact at this point.

LINK

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As if there were any doubt that the NFL was going to continue its blacklist against Colin Kaepernick, the former Super Bowl starting quarterback was once again denied an opportunity this week. This time, it was in Seattle, and there was none of the hemming and hawing about Kaepernick’s numbers not being good enough or his playstyle not being the right fit for the offense. No, instead, an NFL source told ESPN’s Adam Schefter that Seahawks officials cancelled Kaepernick’s workout after he refused to commit to ending his kneeling protests during the national anthem during the 2018 season. (Sure enough, on Friday, the Seahawks went ahead and found someone else for the job.)
Posted by tigafan4life
Member since Dec 2006
51121 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 1:11 pm to
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When someone posts something racist online and loses their job for it guess what the result is?
You are an idiot and refuse to see that MULTIPLE people have told you and showed you that people will say saying I support Trump is racist. Do you agree with that statement? Clearly saying that you support trump isn't racist but people are making it a racist statement and causing people to be cancelled. Do you not have a brain in there? Just stop already. You won't win this argument.
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
24526 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 1:11 pm to
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People on this board have way too much sympathy for others who promote racist and homophobic beliefs and not enough for actual victims of racism and homophobia. As I said before, no one can legally fire someone just for saying they support a presidential candidate.

And you can't legally fire someone because of their race or sexual orientation. What's your point?
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52681 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 1:11 pm to
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Tell me with a straight face that you believe there were 64 QBs in the NFL better than he was.


There aren't. That's exactly why scouts from several teams went to the private workout that he scheduled, and then decided not to show up for.

Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88470 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 1:12 pm to
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People are afraid to post racist things online. Once again, no one is going to prison for this. But you may face occupational, educational, and social consequences for things you willingly post online.
How many times do we have to tell you that it goes beyond racism. That it's anyone who doesn't think as the mob thinks. People who express support of the president are being attacked. People who posted things 15 years ago that were completely acceptable are now being brought back up as if saying men are men is controversial.

You are trolling at this point. Have to be. I refuse to believe someone is this stupid.
Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
12818 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 1:12 pm to
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When someone posts something racist online and loses their job for it guess what the result is?


Saying you support Trump or All Lives Matter isn’t racist. And it’s not always about losing your job. HS kids get cancelled also. As I mentioned earlier that girl on Twitter going after people for being pro Trump, that’s an example of cancel culture, maybe small, but that’s another example. She had thousands of people sharing pictures about a 16 y/o with a Trump shirt and telling them to go after her
Posted by Kodar
Alabama
Member since Nov 2012
4630 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 1:12 pm to
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PhillyFan1994
On this:
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tweet that said, "Liberals suck man."

said:
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So a public HS teacher made a disparaging comment about an entire group of people with different polticial beliefs online and faced punishment for it. Sounds reasonable to me.


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PhillyFan1994
also said on 09/16/15 at the following post:

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Of course you don't. Conservatives would much rather call people names than address facts and reality.

Oh how the turntables.
Posted by facher08
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
6322 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 1:13 pm to
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When someone posts something 'problematic' online and loses their job for it guess what the result is? People are afraid to post anything online.


FIFY
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
35543 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 1:13 pm to
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When Donald Trump says he wont watch the NFL if players kneel for the anthem is he not engaging in cancel culture?


No.

Any other dumb questions today?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 1:14 pm to
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People are afraid to post racist things online. Once again, no one is going to prison for this. But you may face occupational, educational, and social consequences for things you willingly post online.


When the realization hits you that youre in a cult, it will be epic.
Posted by LSU-MNCBABY
Knightsgate
Member since Jan 2004
25355 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 1:14 pm to
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was trying to do then you must have very little critical thinking skills


Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
33459 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 1:14 pm to
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Tell me why he sabotaged his own tryouts.


Multiple replies, not going to reply to each, but:

Explain why multiple teams have publicly admitted they stayed away from him because of the kneeling.
Posted by ItNeverRains
Offugeaux
Member since Oct 2007
28166 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 1:15 pm to
Why do people start threads asking why do people complain about cancel culture?

Same answer. Because America.
Posted by Breesus
Unplug
Member since Jan 2010
69549 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 1:16 pm to
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please stop acting like Kaep wasn't blacklisted for kneeling.


He wasn’t.

Or do you think for some reason Colin Kaepernick, and no other NFL player to date, was blacklisted?
Posted by PhillyFan1994
Member since Sep 2012
2032 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 1:17 pm to
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How many times do we have to tell you that it goes beyond racism. That it's anyone who doesn't think as the mob thinks. People who express support of the president are being attacked.


It goes beyond racism because you guys don't think anything is racist. Once again, no will legally be fired from their job or kicked out of school for simply saying they support Trump. Colleges (which I know many of you didn't go to) have their own Republican student clubs for kids to voice their support. However, when you say purposefully incendiary statements you will get the backlash you were looking for. The term "All Lives Matter" literally originated as a rebuttal to "Black Lives Matter." When someone says that what they are really saying is "I oppose the Black Lives Matter movement." That is, of course, going to generate backlash. Conservatives love to make it seem like they are being persecuted for their beliefs when they intentionally say and do things to upset people and receive the consequences for it.
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