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re: Why do doctors practice in so many offices? Isn't it just easier to stick to one?
Posted on 12/17/25 at 1:34 pm to Eurocat
Posted on 12/17/25 at 1:34 pm to Eurocat
Large physician groups. UT Physicians here in Houston. Those guys are everywhere. Sort of like Kelsey Seybold but smaller. The offices are interchangeable.
The more specialized the more distance traveled.
The more specialized the more distance traveled.
Posted on 12/17/25 at 1:36 pm to Eurocat
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Why wouldn't every doctor take every insurance plan they possibly could
Not every insurance plan reimburses at the same rate or allows more providers in their network.
Posted on 12/17/25 at 1:37 pm to Eurocat
Money.
It’s the same reason that doctors become part of medical spas.
They are never gonna go there but will get paid simply because their name is on the license
It’s the same reason that doctors become part of medical spas.
They are never gonna go there but will get paid simply because their name is on the license
Posted on 12/17/25 at 1:41 pm to Eurocat
The physician groups have a side gig speculating in real estate. I 1st saw this with dentists. Why put all that surplus income into stocks and bonds when you can open a satellite office in a growing part of town?
Posted on 12/17/25 at 1:43 pm to Eurocat
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Why do doctors practice in so many offices? Isn't it just easier to stick to one?
Thankfully a lot of specialists do this. This has saved me from having to go down to Manning Children in Nola 3x this year.
Posted on 12/17/25 at 2:43 pm to Eurocat
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(very major plan, big group)
Large insurers reimburse less to physicians as the cost of access to their patients.
And only once you're in do they start to come up with even more reasons to not reimburse you.
Posted on 12/17/25 at 2:46 pm to Eurocat
Doctors practicing on multiple locations can also have to do with patient mix (really payor mix). Practices with multiple locations can have different types of insurance accepted at each. That allows one location to see Medicaid patients for example, and the providers are likely skewed to NP/PA level. Another location may see more commercial plans and have more MD hours available.
Another factor is hospital affiliated clinics. Doctors can have a practice in one location and contract with a hospital affiliated clinic in another to provide specialty services to the patients of that hospital system.
Another factor is hospital affiliated clinics. Doctors can have a practice in one location and contract with a hospital affiliated clinic in another to provide specialty services to the patients of that hospital system.
Posted on 12/17/25 at 2:52 pm to Wiener
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And only once you're in do they start to come up with even more reasons to not reimburse you.
My favorite is when the insurers have no problem approving claims for their insured when the insured hasn't met their deductible and is responsible for the bill. As soon as their deductible is met though...the claim denial rate shoots through the roof.
Posted on 12/17/25 at 2:54 pm to Eurocat
Obamacare is the answer you are looking for.
Posted on 12/17/25 at 3:01 pm to Eurocat
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I don't get it. Trying to set something up (nothing of concern, minor skin annoyance) and every Doc seems to be working out of four offices and has admitting privileges at like six hospitals.
This literally makes it MORE convenient for the patient. They schedule on a day the doctor will be in their own town.
This post was edited on 12/17/25 at 3:02 pm
Posted on 12/17/25 at 4:06 pm to Eurocat
If you’re a specialist; not everyone needs specialist. So you cover much more round with patients that are less willing to drive and having hundreds of patients drive longer routes instead of just yourself and couple key personnel to take commute.
Posted on 12/17/25 at 4:39 pm to Eurocat
Food for thought:
1. Over 77% of physicians are now employed as opposed to own their own practice. A lot are told where they will go work by their hospital, PE, insurance/healthcare conglomerate employer.
2. Particularly in the employed systems, "physician extenders" (nurse practicioners or PAs) do the main staffing and they are "supervised" by a physician (ratio of doc to extender varies).
3. If you are employed, most work on a production basis determined by the number of RVUs (kind of like billable hours) the physician can churn. In this scenario, you don't care what the insurance pays or the generally quality of referral you get. You just see as much volume as you can and you can get credit for RVUs just by supervising someone doing the visit. Or if a surgeon, let the extenders see and you just operate on them.
If you still own your own practice, you care how much you actually get paid to do the work so you have to be more selective about the insurance you take. There are definitely insurance companies that pay you less than your overhead if you aren't careful. You are also probably a bit more "customer service" oriented too.
One interesting factoid about ACA/ObamaCare: Prior to implementation, only about 35% of physicians were employed. Now over 77% are. Regardless of political affiliation, these are the facts and show the power of this piece of legislation to fundamentally alter the US health system. The shift in reimbursement models, increased regulation, increased power of insurance companies in their ability to vertically integrate has killed the private practice model in the US. It wasn't perfect but the private practice model of healthcare was much more patient centered than the debacle we have now. The Bush II admin forcing electronic medical records before they were ready for prime time and creation of Medicare Part D drug plan were the other nails in the coffin.
Rant over, Have a Merry Christmas all!!!
1. Over 77% of physicians are now employed as opposed to own their own practice. A lot are told where they will go work by their hospital, PE, insurance/healthcare conglomerate employer.
2. Particularly in the employed systems, "physician extenders" (nurse practicioners or PAs) do the main staffing and they are "supervised" by a physician (ratio of doc to extender varies).
3. If you are employed, most work on a production basis determined by the number of RVUs (kind of like billable hours) the physician can churn. In this scenario, you don't care what the insurance pays or the generally quality of referral you get. You just see as much volume as you can and you can get credit for RVUs just by supervising someone doing the visit. Or if a surgeon, let the extenders see and you just operate on them.
If you still own your own practice, you care how much you actually get paid to do the work so you have to be more selective about the insurance you take. There are definitely insurance companies that pay you less than your overhead if you aren't careful. You are also probably a bit more "customer service" oriented too.
One interesting factoid about ACA/ObamaCare: Prior to implementation, only about 35% of physicians were employed. Now over 77% are. Regardless of political affiliation, these are the facts and show the power of this piece of legislation to fundamentally alter the US health system. The shift in reimbursement models, increased regulation, increased power of insurance companies in their ability to vertically integrate has killed the private practice model in the US. It wasn't perfect but the private practice model of healthcare was much more patient centered than the debacle we have now. The Bush II admin forcing electronic medical records before they were ready for prime time and creation of Medicare Part D drug plan were the other nails in the coffin.
Rant over, Have a Merry Christmas all!!!
Posted on 12/17/25 at 5:52 pm to Eurocat
Can’t let the various nurse girlfriends actually know each other baw. Gotta keep em separated.
Posted on 12/17/25 at 6:05 pm to TheHumanTornado
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Accessibility for patients
It's primarily about insurance network credentialing. The vast majority of the locations are owned by a network such as the Vanderbilt network vs. St.Thomas vs TriStar (HCA). Also juggling the Medicare/Medicaid patients is quite challenge.
It has nothing - ZERO - to do with patient access or physicians making more money
You'll rarely see BCBS covered patients sitting in the same room as Medicaid patients. *Do so and you'll lose 90% of your higher end commercial insurance patients.
I was the managing partner of a major multidisciplinary clinic in Nashville. Obamacare phucked all of us independents.
This post was edited on 12/17/25 at 6:11 pm
Posted on 12/18/25 at 7:55 am to Uroblast
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One interesting factoid about ACA/ObamaCare: Prior to implementation, only about 35% of physicians were employed. Now over 77% are. Regardless of political affiliation, these are the facts and show the power of this piece of legislation to fundamentally alter the US health system. The shift in reimbursement models, increased regulation, increased power of insurance companies in their ability to vertically integrate has killed the private practice model in the US.
This cannot be overstated. The AHA lobbied hard against physician ownership of medical facilities and won. They've used that leverage to kill private practice and bring physicians under their control. The funny part is they've used the employed model to recreate the scenario they created fear of - self referrals because you own the hospital.
If your physician seems more detached these days, they're probably reminded daily that they're just an easily replaceable cog in the machine the AHA lobbied to turn medicine into.
There's a reason hospital systems are metastasizing like wildfire now.
Posted on 12/18/25 at 8:09 am to Eurocat
Same reason drug rings work multiple corners.
Posted on 12/18/25 at 8:09 am to Eurocat
how long do they have to practice before they can do it for real?
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