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re: Why didn't Andre the Giant ever become champ?

Posted on 3/12/20 at 9:28 am to
Posted by VermilionTiger
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Posted on 3/12/20 at 9:28 am to
Some people need the belt

Some people didn’t need the belt
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 3/12/20 at 9:29 am to
Andre didn’t need the belt to be over as an A+ main eventer and draw big money. Why have 1 big match when you could have a title match and Andre’s match?

Piper was of a similar mold.
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 3/12/20 at 9:30 am to
He wasn't as marketable as Hulk. simple as that. He was big but not great looking on tv, in ads, magazines, etc.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 9:31 am to
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He wasn't as marketable as Hulk.



Andre was a worldwide draw for decades. He alone would fill arenas all over the planet. There would be ten or twenty shitty wrestlers on the card, but at the end people would get to see The Giant; and they'd come just because The Giant was there.

He was already a huge draw when the McMahons started taking wrestling onto television, but he'd already been wrestling for 20 years by that time and his body had begun to fail him. Had he been 10 or 15 years younger, he absolutely would have been one of their biggest TV draws for a long time.
This post was edited on 3/12/20 at 9:45 am
Posted by jdd48
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Posted on 3/12/20 at 9:34 am to
Wrestling was also much more face focused back then. Nowadays the faces are mostly portrayed and weak while the heels are the biggest stars.
Posted by 50407Tiger
Member since Oct 2019
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Posted on 3/12/20 at 9:46 am to
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Because it’s fake you idiot




Fake leg
Posted by rich4pres
Knoxville
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 3/12/20 at 9:53 am to
Two reasons
1. He didn't need the belt to be a superstar
2. Andre was considered more of an attraction. His luster would wear off if he stayed anywhere too long.
Posted by Tigeralum2008
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Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 3/12/20 at 10:12 am to
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not a pro wrestling fan, but the only way Hogan was going to beat Andre would be if it was scripted. I mean, look at the size of him. Hogan looks like his kid brother.



Watch the HBO doc on Andre. Hulk wrote the entire Wrestlemania match script on notebook paper. He was worried about injuring Andre who was severely limited going into the match. Hulk handed it to a very drunk Andre and wondered if The Giant would even read it. Turns out andre performed every action written to the page in what has become the most important match in WWE history.
Posted by cleeveclever
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 3/12/20 at 10:12 am to
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Andre DID become champ. He beat Hogan and briefly held it. Turns out, though, the fight was rigged and the belt was vacated. The real referee was detained backstage and his evil twin gave Andre a three-count while Hogan's shoulders were off the mat.



In the "official" world title history, Andre's 1-day reign is counted because he defeated Hogan. However, The Million Dollar Man's (who Andre surrendered the title to for payment) brief reign is not recognized as official.

However, due to the pre-internet delays in information and because it would be a week before they could "announce" that Jack Tunney had held-up the belt, the Million Dollar Man wrestled at house shows during the delay as the WWF Champion and carried the belt -- despite not officially being recognized as champion by the now WWE.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 3/12/20 at 10:14 am to
Because Superman and Batman were better.
Posted by bubbz
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 3/12/20 at 10:17 am to
The Andre doc on HBO was incredible. It was pretty sad too.
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
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Posted on 3/12/20 at 10:17 am to
@MrPersonality
Posted by Maravich
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 3/12/20 at 10:19 am to
LINK

Good read
Posted by BlackPawnMartyr
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2010
16387 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 10:26 am to
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Watch the HBO doc on Andre



Not even a Wrestling fan and found that Doc so well done and entertaining and emotional.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 3/12/20 at 10:26 am to
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the Million Dollar Man wrestled at house shows during the delay as the WWF Champion and carried the belt


would love to see some film of this
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42767 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 10:27 am to
The outcomes are all rigged. Saying it’s not fake because someone got hurt is like saying an ac to on movie is real because a stunt guy got hurt
Posted by LSUalum2000
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 3/12/20 at 10:31 am to
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The way he was booked dictated that if he was champ no one else could be and he didn't need the belt to be a huge star where others did.


exactly this
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
58284 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 10:31 am to
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The Andre doc on HBO was incredible. It was pretty sad too.


Listen to the Joe Rogan podcast with Jake the snake, coupled with this. Really feel sorry for Andre'.
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
30308 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 10:36 am to
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Andre DID become champ. He beat Hogan and briefly held it. Turns out, though, the fight was rigged and the belt was vacated. The real referee was detained backstage and his evil twin gave Andre a three-count while Hogan's shoulders were off the mat.


Still the best angle involving a ref in wrasslin history in my book.

The fact is Andre never needed a belt he was a huge attraction that drew huge money all over the world even at the end of his career when he could barely move. In those days him being bigger than everyone else was more than enough to draw money.
Posted by cleeveclever
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 3/12/20 at 10:45 am to
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would love to see some film of this


Below is a screenshot from one of the houseshows. It was obviously televised in a local market. I wonder if the entire video exists on youtube somewhere.



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