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Why aren't double decker bridges more common?

Posted on 12/25/18 at 11:31 pm
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
95699 posts
Posted on 12/25/18 at 11:31 pm
It seems like this would save a ton of money both practically and real-estate wise. Why are they so uncommon? Top level goes one way bottom level goes another. The most famous ones are the San Fran to Oakland bridge or the George Washington bridge out of Manhattan, but we have a couple in Portland as well.

This post was edited on 12/25/18 at 11:35 pm
Posted by MiloDanglers
on a dock on a bay
Member since Apr 2012
6558 posts
Posted on 12/25/18 at 11:32 pm to
How are you gonna airlift out the wreck victim?
Posted by tketaco
Sunnyside, Houston
Member since Jan 2010
21114 posts
Posted on 12/25/18 at 11:33 pm to
So BTR can have 2 gridlock bridges?
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
95699 posts
Posted on 12/25/18 at 11:35 pm to
Probably way fewer airlift caliber wrecks on a one-way level
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
19276 posts
Posted on 12/25/18 at 11:35 pm to
People who build bridges aren't interested in saving money nor are the people to whom they pay kickbacks. If it saved money, you can be confident organized crime wasnt heavily involved.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
36464 posts
Posted on 12/25/18 at 11:35 pm to
quote:

So BTR can have 2 gridlock bridges?


New bridge, old bridge.......
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
15480 posts
Posted on 12/25/18 at 11:45 pm to
The I-71 & I-75 Brent Spence Bridge spans the Ohio River, connecting northern Kentucky and Cincinnati


Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
22953 posts
Posted on 12/26/18 at 12:19 am to
The Fort Pitt bridge in Pittsburgh, as well.

Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
30468 posts
Posted on 12/26/18 at 12:34 am to
Never though about it but it’s a great idea.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
80040 posts
Posted on 12/26/18 at 12:34 am to
BR will build a double decker bridge as soon as it finishes synchronizing the traffic lights
Posted by Celery
Nuevo York
Member since Nov 2010
11283 posts
Posted on 12/26/18 at 1:15 am to
I’d like to see more double decker highways. Why stop at bridges?
Posted by Jackie Chan
Japan?
Member since Sep 2012
4762 posts
Posted on 12/26/18 at 1:26 am to
The incompetents in BR couldn't build a double decker sandwich, much less a bridge.
Posted by hg
Member since Jun 2009
126190 posts
Posted on 12/26/18 at 1:35 am to
Why are two lane interstates still a thing? Haven’t we out grown that?
This post was edited on 12/26/18 at 1:35 am
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 12/26/18 at 2:14 am to
when you have two spans and one closes for maintenance and or repair you have options with one span not so much.
Posted by coolneal
Lakeland, TN
Member since Nov 2007
689 posts
Posted on 12/26/18 at 2:51 am to
Just throwing it out there, but could it depend on the geography/soil composition? The weight of the bridge could be an issue. But I really don't know.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 12/26/18 at 4:12 am to
As others have noted, soil composition must be such that the heavier loads can be supported. This factor alone decreases the number of available sites.

Helicopter medievacs can be handled by simply ambulancing the patients to a point where the airlift can be managed.

But another point that makes these bridges more difficult is that the trusswork must be stiffened so that vibrations on one level do not transmit to the other level.

You can take my word for all of the above, I studied at the Wikipedia School of Engineering.
Posted by 3deadtrolls
lafayette
Member since Jan 2014
6333 posts
Posted on 12/26/18 at 5:11 am to
I10 would still bottleneck at Washington St, so it would just be more lanes trying to merge.
Posted by bakersman
Shreveport
Member since Apr 2011
5836 posts
Posted on 12/26/18 at 6:10 am to
If you put the BR how the hell are we supposed to rubber neck?
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 12/26/18 at 6:23 am to
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If you put the BR how the hell are we supposed to rubber neck?



I drove through BR Sunday. Fixing that will be a huge project.

Y'all need to get the people who redid 635 in Dallas, they are awesome.
Posted by Boudreaux35
BR
Member since Sep 2007
22281 posts
Posted on 12/26/18 at 7:49 am to
quote:

It seems like this would save a ton of money both practically and real-estate wise.


Not sure what you mean by saving money "practically". You still have to support 2 roadways, so, it is basically the substructure (or support structure) that you think would be saved. That saving may not be so great as it will basically have to be built twice as strong. Throw in the complexity factor and the money saved is going to be minimal, if at all. As far as real estate savings, the area consumed over the object it is crossing is usually cheap or "free" anyway. For example, a bridge over the Miss. River is not going to require real estate acquisition over the water. The real estate costs are on land, where the roadways are, not the bridge.
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