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re: Why are young people too lazy/worthless to return to the office ?
Posted on 3/3/25 at 8:16 am to Stud Studdington
Posted on 3/3/25 at 8:16 am to Stud Studdington
it's easier for me to train people face-face than over a remote stream, especially when i need to draw something out to explain something
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Posted on 3/3/25 at 8:17 am to Epic Cajun
There was a person on this site complaining that if he has to go back to the office it will be a huge pay cut. He would have to put his kids in daycare. He was basically watching his kids on the company dime. That is what wfh gets the company. Go back to work you bums.
Posted on 3/3/25 at 8:17 am to Stud Studdington
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Registered on: 2/24/2025
Hmm week old account shiny hooking the OT.
Seems legit.
This post was edited on 3/3/25 at 8:22 am
Posted on 3/3/25 at 8:20 am to DVinBR
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it's easier for me to train people face-face than over a remote stream, especially when i need to draw something out to explain something
talked with a friend of mine yesterday that is head of an engineering department at Lockheed Martin and they are about to implement a return to the office policy, a mandatory policy, he said quite a few of the younger engineers have already moved to remote places to "wfh," curious to see if they're willing to throw away a pretty good job over this
Posted on 3/3/25 at 8:28 am to JoylessMurderball
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most people they dont get as much done as they would in an office setting
I find the opposite to be true. I work a hybrid schedule and I get way more done on home days than I do on in office days. When I'm in the office, everyone just wants to socialize and have "water cooler" talk. I find there's multiple hours plus lunch breaks just with people essentially hanging out. At home I can get more work actually done and still be able to cut the grass or clean the kitchen or other home tasks during lunch breaks. I'm way more efficient on my home days
Posted on 3/3/25 at 8:36 am to TDTOM
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There was a person on this site complaining that if he has to go back to the office it will be a huge pay cut. He would have to put his kids in daycare. He was basically watching his kids on the company dime. That is what wfh gets the company. Go back to work you bums.
My kid went to MDO the moment that my wife went back to work from maternity leave. There are people who have been working from home for a longer time that just these COVID years.
The issue is that organizations who never had a remote working environment were essentially forced into it during COVID and they have no fricking clue what they are doing. From the top down, leadership doesn't know how to set expectations in a remote working environment, management has no idea how to manage in a remote world, and some dumbass employees can't get things done remotely either.
That is not the case for everyone, and yes if you aren't going to do it correctly you're better off just being lazy and forcing everyone back into an office.
Posted on 3/3/25 at 8:39 am to NfamousPanda
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I find the opposite to be true. I work a hybrid schedule and I get way more done on home days than I do on in office days. When I'm in the office, everyone just wants to socialize and have "water cooler" talk. I find there's multiple hours plus lunch breaks just with people essentially hanging out. At home I can get more work actually done and still be able to cut the grass or clean the kitchen or other home tasks during lunch breaks. I'm way more efficient on my home days
When I worked from an office I took at least an hour lunch every day, not to mention all of the people who would stop by my office to bullshite about random things.
I only take a lunch about half of the time now, and no longer have annoying people popping in my office to waste my time.
Posted on 3/3/25 at 9:50 am to Epic Cajun
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It never ceases to amaze me that boomers think that the slang “boomers” is referring to only people in the baby boomer generation. In internet “talk” a “boomer” is just someone perceived by the author as “old”, and it’s usually referring to a mindset over an actual age
As a Gen-Xer, I’m more tied to actual reality instead of whatever “internet talk” is. But thanks for the info. I’ll enter it into my Palm Pilot and/or composition notebook.
Posted on 3/3/25 at 9:51 am to McLemore
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I’ll enter it into my Palm Pilot and/or composition notebook.
just jotted that down in my Daily Planner
Posted on 3/3/25 at 9:52 am to Stud Studdington
My boss was stoked about my WFH status this weekend. I had some simulations to run on my workstation that only required human intervention every 6-8 hours. I ran them over the past two days at my leisure instead of wasting valuable time during the week.
Posted on 3/3/25 at 9:54 am to Earnest_P
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COVID convinced a lot of people that most jobs are bullshite.
How would you feel if the Company layoff them bullshite jobs instead since it's you know.. bullshite. I bet a lot of people wouldn't like that, but people are free to find another company that aligns with their "vision".
Posted on 3/3/25 at 9:56 am to RIPMachoMan
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Hmm week old account shiny hooking the OT.
Seems legit.
Hey, he got 4 pages out of it. Some topics are just low hanging fruit
Posted on 3/3/25 at 9:57 am to Epic Cajun
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In internet “talk” a “boomer” is just someone perceived by the author as “old”, and it’s usually referring to a mindset over an actual age
Because your generation has been reduced to communicating in retarded talking points that dont mean what they say.
Its the perpetual victimization yall feel.
Posted on 3/3/25 at 10:45 am to Stud Studdington
You misspelled "boomers"
Posted on 3/3/25 at 10:51 am to TigersWin88
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Excelling at your job does nothing—raises come only by annual profit margins and promotions are given to those who have “experience in management” or those who “networked” to be there. We aren’t given pensions, or stock in the company, so the only way to get a 10-20% raise is to work somewhere for 4-6 years and then apply to another company. The work environment for most non-governmental companies is like this.
I don’t think this is a new phenomenon, but now more than ever it’s abundantly clear with how fast and easy information is shared.
Especially at large companies, there’s no incentive to excel. Particularly in my industry. Raises and bonuses are the same for everyone that meets expectations for the first 6-8 years, whether you are a good or great performer. Then, the attrition is so high you can keep moving up based on a numbers game.
There’s not a doubt that a lot of the sub 30 crowd is lazy as shite and wants to have their cake and eat it to, but there’s a lot that realize that corporate work is a means to an end and want to have a well rounded life. Which is how it should be, the corporate drone we’ve created in the last 40 years or so is horrible
Posted on 3/3/25 at 11:11 am to Mingo Was His NameO
I don't know about most people but it would cost me over $300/month justin gas to RTO. I am sure many are in the same boat. With the economy the way it is asking people to pay even more out of their paycheck without any increase does not sit well. Also It is nice to get an extra 2-3 hour of my day back not sitting in a commute/going to lunch somewhere.
Posted on 3/3/25 at 11:14 am to Stud Studdington
the obsession with WFH from a certain demographic is one of the oddest things I can recall
I'll never understand it
I'll never understand it
Posted on 3/3/25 at 11:15 am to Salmon
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the obsession with WFH from a certain demographic is one of the oddest things I can recall
yup
Posted on 3/3/25 at 11:22 am to JoylessMurderball
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You honestly think the majority of people in a corporate environment get more done at home than in an office setting? How many videos did we have to see during covid of people being at parks or a pool "working" from home.
Ok, so no data. The people that dishonestly waste time at home are the same that dishonestly waste time at work. Even back in 2005, we had consultants that would do dumb shite like post pictures of themselves on FB on the beach in FL, when they were supposed to be in Atlanta. But at the same time, your view of "work 8 hours at an office," somehow makes someone more productive, especially since VPNs, Cloud based services, etc. came into widespread use is laughable. RTO means you can see the back of someone's head, and smell their lunch. It doesn't mean anything else.
Think about when LSU football kicks off, and it gets even worse once SEC play starts. How much time gets wasted every morning, with multiple people standing around talking about the backup QB?
Posted on 3/3/25 at 12:54 pm to JoylessMurderball
well it all comes down to responsibility. is it easy to sit at home and game? or stream a movie/show? absolutely, but as with everything there are consequences - if your not going to do the work your job requires from home like a responsible adult, then you do not deserve the job. period.
and responsibility falls on the businesses/companies. there are multiple types of metrics to show if the work is being done, and being done in a satisfactory manner - and if it isn't, you love the privilege or the job.
my managers do not have to worry with me working remote, because I do my job and have shown responsibility to not have to be micro managed.
but that is just me - and to the poster that said working from home means your available all the time - if your job is treating it that way, then that is more on your business and the reasons they are treating it that way, than it is on the WFH situation in general.
and responsibility falls on the businesses/companies. there are multiple types of metrics to show if the work is being done, and being done in a satisfactory manner - and if it isn't, you love the privilege or the job.
my managers do not have to worry with me working remote, because I do my job and have shown responsibility to not have to be micro managed.
but that is just me - and to the poster that said working from home means your available all the time - if your job is treating it that way, then that is more on your business and the reasons they are treating it that way, than it is on the WFH situation in general.
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