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re: Who is the greatest President the USA ever had?

Posted on 1/17/19 at 8:22 am to
Posted by Tigerfan56
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 1/17/19 at 8:22 am to
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Trump because he’s like the anti snowflake.


Is he, though?

He seems to be very sensitive to criticism.
Posted by Reda LSU
Los Angeles
Member since Jan 2013
4230 posts
Posted on 1/17/19 at 8:25 am to
JFK
Reagan
Goerge H.W. Bush
Clinton
George Washington
Honest Abe
also Roosevelt

lol at all the people saying Trump. Dude has legitimately accomplished nothing.
This post was edited on 1/17/19 at 8:28 am
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
50755 posts
Posted on 1/17/19 at 8:26 am to
George Washington
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 1/17/19 at 8:27 am to
James K. Polk
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
50755 posts
Posted on 1/17/19 at 8:29 am to
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Benjamin Franklin


Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
77044 posts
Posted on 1/17/19 at 8:41 am to
Before Trump it was Thomas Jefferson. The God Emperor now wears the crown.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
120019 posts
Posted on 1/17/19 at 8:50 am to
Eisenhower..

If people really think Trump is the best president this country has ever had, I suggest you learn more US history.

He isn't "anti-establishment". He wants those who wants anti-establishment in office to think he is, but politics is more complicated than that. The good presidents knew how to work with others to get what they wanted because our government is designed to be bigger than one person.
Posted by Landmass
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Member since Jun 2013
24656 posts
Posted on 1/17/19 at 8:53 am to
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Lincoln with an honorable mention to Reagan because Sam Elliot says so.


Lincoln got more Americans killed than the rest combined.
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
9700 posts
Posted on 1/17/19 at 8:58 am to
Here are the top 20 according to historians

Top 5 of their list:
1. Lincoln
2. Washington
3. FDR
4. Teddy R
5. Ike

Can't argue with their assessment.

Honorable mentions:
9. The Gipper
12. Obama
15. Clinton
20. HW


And for those saying Trump, a recent survey of 170 historians ranked him dead last, though considering he's still potus, he has time to improve his standing.
This post was edited on 1/17/19 at 9:01 am
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
133223 posts
Posted on 1/17/19 at 9:00 am to
Millard Fillmore
Posted by Parmen
Member since Apr 2016
18317 posts
Posted on 1/17/19 at 9:00 am to
He was President of Pennsylvania.
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
30979 posts
Posted on 1/17/19 at 9:00 am to
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The other roosevelt was the worst


Give Supernova in the East II a listen and see if Dan Carlin can't change your mind.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
133223 posts
Posted on 1/17/19 at 9:02 am to
Well i’ll be damned.


I kind of Agree with you. Eisenhower Warned against the military industrial complex and the growing deep state.
Posted by 3nOut
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Jan 2013
31744 posts
Posted on 1/17/19 at 9:08 am to
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What great thing has Trump achieved?


i am not an overly Trumpkin person but he pushed legislation that stopped the government from forcing me into commerce with a third party. that's a win in my book.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
120019 posts
Posted on 1/17/19 at 9:08 am to
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Additionally, what do you think Bush did to "kill" the economy?


In reality, presidents do not have as much influence on the economy as people think.

Well, I should say that the impact they do have is seen more after they leave office than when they are in office because it takes time to see how, what they did, has an impact.

They can do or say things that can have a temporary impact on the stock market, but the economy will always be up and down, they just need to keep it going..

Look at the great depression. Hoover was president when it started (1929), it wasn't until during WWII until we fully got out of it. There were a lot of moving parts that caused the great depression and it took a war, that had a world wide impact, to get us out of it.
Posted by cykablyat
Member since Jan 2019
116 posts
Posted on 1/17/19 at 9:09 am to
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Shutting down the government for an ineffective fence is giving him the edge right now.


Because...the country is failing since the gov't is shutdown?
Posted by Ghost Hog
Earth
Member since May 2015
462 posts
Posted on 1/17/19 at 9:09 am to
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George Washington. He could have made himself a king but remained true to a little experiment in representative democracy.


This is the right answer.

Washington was the ultimate badass. I think he has a quote something along the lines of "Why would I trade George III for George I?"

He did more for this country than many will ever know. He was also the nation's leading producer of Rye Whiskey at one point.



Lincoln was really good too.
Posted by Landmass
Premium Member
Member since Jun 2013
24656 posts
Posted on 1/17/19 at 9:12 am to
Lincoln is the worst President on the list. Take a step back from your opinions on the Civil War and look at this objectively.

The Good:

1. Freed slaves AFTER the war.

The Bad:

1. He escalated the Civil War. He marched on the south instead of using less violent measures. The impact to the economy, life, and posterity were severe.
2. He invented the unconstitutional "executive order."
3. He pretty much suspended the US Constitution and suspended Habeas Corpus.
4. He arrested journalists that disagreed with him.
Posted by whoa
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
5788 posts
Posted on 1/17/19 at 9:12 am to
How the frick are any of you seriously listing Trump? My god, dude has done nothing except bitch & whine. Delusional, much?
Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
68759 posts
Posted on 1/17/19 at 9:14 am to
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Whoever can reverse all the frickups of Lyndon B. Johnson.



A gigantic POS was he.
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