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re: Who is the greatest President the USA ever had?

Posted on 1/17/19 at 12:38 am to
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 1/17/19 at 12:38 am to
Posted by 225bred
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Posted on 1/17/19 at 12:44 am to
Whoever can reverse all the frickups of Lyndon B. Johnson.
Posted by Northshore Saint
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Posted on 1/17/19 at 12:51 am to
Jefferson
Teddy Roosevelt
Washington
FDR
Kennedy
Posted by stuntman
Florida
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Posted on 1/17/19 at 1:11 am to
Grover Cleveland.

Ol' baw was a veto MACHINE.
Posted by Obtuse1
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Posted on 1/17/19 at 1:11 am to
Three mentions prior to your post.


IMO Washington, Jefferson and Jackson of the early presidents, Lincoln is really the only standout in the "middle" period. TR, FDR, Wilson and Truman stand out to me in the 20th century.
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Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
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Posted on 1/17/19 at 1:19 am to
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Grover Cleveland.
Dude had balls of steel and principles. What a concept.

Grover Cleveland statement on texas farmers demand that congress bail them out during a seed crisis:
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I return without my approval House bill number ten thousand two hundred and three, entitled "An Act to enable the Commissioner of Agriculture to make a special distribution of seeds in drought-stricken counties of Texas, and making an appropriation therefor."

It is represented that a long-continued and extensive drought has existed in certain portions of the State of Texas, resulting in a failure of crops and consequent distress and destitution.

Though there has been some difference in statements concerning the extent of the people's needs in the localities thus affected, there seems to be no doubt that there has existed a condition calling for relief; and I am willing to believe that, notwithstanding the aid already furnished, a donation of seed-grain to the farmers located in this region, to enable them to put in new crops, would serve to avert a continuance or return of an unfortunate blight.

And yet I feel obliged to withhold my approval of the plan as proposed by this bill, to indulge a benevolent and charitable sentiment through the appropriation of public funds for that purpose.

I can find no warrant for such an appropriation in the Constitution, and I do not believe that the power and duty of the general government ought to be extended to the relief of individual suffering which is in no manner properly related to the public service or benefit. A prevalent tendency to disregard the limited mission of this power and duty should, I think, be steadfastly resisted, to the end that the lesson should be constantly enforced that, though the people support the government, the government should not support the people.

The friendliness and charity of our countrymen can always be relied upon to relieve their fellow-citizens in misfortune. This has been repeatedly and quite lately demonstrated. Federal aid in such cases encourages the expectation of paternal care on the part of the government and weakens the sturdiness of our national character, while it prevents the indulgence among our people of that kindly sentiment and conduct which strengthens the bonds of a common brotherhood.

It is within my personal knowledge that individual aid has, to some extent, already been extended to the sufferers mentioned in this bill. The failure of the proposed appropriation of ten thousand dollars additional, to meet their remaining wants, will not necessarily result in continued distress if the emergency is fully made known to the people of the country.

It is here suggested that the Commissioner of Agriculture is annually directed to expend a large sum of money for the purchase, propagation, and distribution of seeds and other things of this description, two-thirds of which are, upon the request of senators, representatives, and delegates in Congress, supplied to them for distribution among their constituents.

The appropriation of the current year for this purpose is one hundred thousand dollars, and it will probably be no less in the appropriation for the ensuing year. I understand that a large quantity of grain is furnished for such distribution, and it is supposed that this free apportionment among their neighbors is a privilege which may be waived by our senators and representatives.

If sufficient of them should request the Commissioner of Agriculture to send their shares of the grain thus allowed them, to the suffering farmers of Texas, they might be enabled to sow their crops; the constituents, for whom in theory this grain is intended, could well bear the temporary deprivation, and the donors would experience the satisfaction attending deeds of charity
Posted by stuntman
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Posted on 1/17/19 at 1:21 am to


Posted by Obtuse1
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Posted on 1/17/19 at 1:30 am to
quote:

Grover Cleveland


Undone by the panic of '93. One of the best examples of classic liberalism we have had as a president.
Posted by Froman
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Posted on 1/17/19 at 1:41 am to
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Trump


He said greatest not worst. Although Trump does have some competition for worst president. Shutting down the government for an ineffective fence is giving him the edge right now.
Posted by Chaz95
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Posted on 1/17/19 at 2:44 am to
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
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Posted on 1/17/19 at 3:12 am to
quote:

Washington
Regan
Trump
Roosevelt
Bush Sr.


quote:

But great men who did and achieved great things.


What great thing has Trump achieved?
Posted by celltech1981
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 1/17/19 at 3:59 am to
lol at people saying Trump.


Calvin Coolidge. Is most notable achievement is cutting the national debt and spending by 1/4 while he was in office. He didn't do very much else which is a good thing.
Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 1/17/19 at 4:56 am to
Andrew Jackson
Posted by Placebeaux
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Posted on 1/17/19 at 5:02 am to
Besides Trump? Andrew Jackson and George Washington
Posted by LSUballs
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Posted on 1/17/19 at 5:14 am to
William Howard Gravy Taft
Posted by Alwaysontop
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Posted on 1/17/19 at 5:31 am to
Polk
He set 4 goals achieved all 4 in first term so he didn't run for second term.
One was Louisiana purchase don't remember the other
Posted by kywildcatfanone
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Posted on 1/17/19 at 5:52 am to
Greatest? Probably Lincoln, Washington, Jefferson and Reagan. Teddy would be up there as well.

Most presidents do more harm than good anymore.
Posted by TigerJeff
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Posted on 1/17/19 at 5:58 am to
Posted by TigerJeff
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Posted on 1/17/19 at 5:59 am to
Daddy Putin
Posted by jeffsdad
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Posted on 1/17/19 at 6:01 am to
Trump
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