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re: White women forced to close business because of appropriation complaints

Posted on 5/25/17 at 12:08 am to
Posted by chinese58
NELA. after 30 years in Dallas.
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 5/25/17 at 12:08 am to
People that find these articles need to click on the links to where Dailymail.com got the story, link it and bypass the Daily news all together.

Below are links from Willamette Week:

Here's the article that caused their demise It's got 1042 comments. Some are about Mexicans stealing the idea for tortillas from the Middle East. Some say the Spanish owned slaves so the ccoking was probably "a collaboration between and native person and a African person under the duress of their Spanish master that brought about Mexican cuisine." These people are deranged.

Here's an article talking about the response

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Celeste Noche, via Facebook: "Today in Portland white nonsense: These white girls drove down to Mexico, stole recipes from women who didn't want to share them, and are up here trying to profit as if actual Mexican food from actual Mexican people doesn't already exist. Bye Beckys and bye Willamette Week for publishing this garbage."

Melody Martínez, via WW's Facebook page: "Wow. This article is a clear example of how media perpetuates and reinforces racism and white supremacy, brandishing it as 'fun' and 'innovative.' What a journalistic fail."

David González, in reply to Martínez: "Seriously? Of all things, this is the one you picked to get angry? Mexican here. Born and raised in Mexico, so, you know, intimately aware of Mexican culture and how it works. We Mexicans appreciate it when people come to our country, learn and adopt tidbits from our culture, and take that back home."

Jagger Blaec, writing in The Portland Mercury: "Week after week people of color in Portland bear witness to the hijacking of their cultures, and an identifiable pattern of appropriation has been created…. After the fury continued online, a different resource emerged and quickly went viral: a Google doc showing exactly how prevalent this epidemic is. The list titled 'White-Owned Appropriative Restaurants in Portland' provides a who's who of culinary white supremacy."

Kristen Goodman, who circulated the "White-Owned Appropriative Restaurants in Portland" list: "Here's is the whole white appropriation restaurant shite list. There are owners I know on this list and places I love. But it's not going to stop me. Please think about how you spend your money. Support people-of-color establishments."

Jon Ryan Leong, in reply to Goodman: "Just my humble opinion. Food, like other aspects of culture, are meant to be shared, enjoyed and disseminated by all people, regardless of where they lie their heads or what their genetic phenotype might look like. If these grandmothers were cool enough to share their culture with these girls, why are we getting mad?"

Yolanda Boo, via WW comments: "For me, this isn't really about the right of people to make a food outside of their culture. It's about respect and payment to people of color for their labor and how this labor is constantly being taken, appropriated, and sold to white people by white people who get a pat on the back for being so enterprising."

Jose M. Doug, via Facebook: "Two women got forced out of business for talking about how they learned to make tortillas—one of the most embarrassing episodes in Portland history. … Does anyone also realize that a lot of Mexican restaurants are often guilty of all kinds of appropriation themselves? Many are run by people whose native cuisine is not tacos and burritos, yet they sell them. Should they all close? I can't believe this is actually a thing. It's extremely naive and silly to even talk about, especially at a time when Trump is in the White House. Maybe talk about the local businesses that secretly funded him and boycott them. Instead these folks are pitchfork mobbing a food cart into closing because two women learned how to make tortillas by watching women make them from scratch in a country where people nationwide do that daily."

Cristina Gonzalez, who is Puerto Rican, via the WW comments section: "My abuela would be absolutely furious. I have recipes that she wouldn't share with anyone, not even me, that I only inherited when she passed. These are recipes for dishes that she created just for us, her family, that she learned from those who came before her. Appropriation scrubs all of that meaning, all of the importance, all of the history, and all of the story that is attached to these recipes. If anyone stole the recipes my grandmother passed down to me, I wouldn't just be furious, I'd feel deeply sad, because they'd be stealing a part of my abuela from me, they'd be stealing the memories I have of her and of her cooking."

Mexinonimo, translated from Reddit/r/Mexico: "If those women have to stop making tortillas because it is cultural appropriation, then it would mean that we Mexicans have to stop eating the al pastor that we stole from Arab immigrants, and I don't think anyone wants that."

Nehefer, translated from Reddit/r/Mexico: "How did we steal it? They came here and offered it."

StellarShadow, translated from Reddit/r/Mexico: "What is this, Social Justice Warriors fighting on behalf of our culture without us caring or asking for it? Wow, those people need to relax and find something to entertain themselves with instead of finding someone to attack."



Here's an article written by a reader commenting on the food truck being shut down

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I was in my hometown in rural Northern California for our annual May Day parade and picnic just a few days before the Kooks burrito review came out. Each year the Mexican church I attended while growing up hosts a taco bar at the picnic, which often ends up being one of the most popular booths at the whole event. Our town is over 90% white, and I made a joke to my sister about how the May day picnic is the only time the white people are OK with us being around.

So when I saw the review in Willamette Week a few days later, in which two white women described how they peeked into the windows of restaurants in Baja (it's always Baja) in order to learn how to make tortillas—prompting a vocal backlash and subsequent shuttering of the weekend popup—I understood pretty well the place where some readers' anger was coming from.
This post was edited on 5/25/17 at 12:12 am
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
9666 posts
Posted on 5/25/17 at 12:09 am to
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I think Tee Mcneill needs her employers contacted.


Seriously? What would make you think Tee has an actual job?

However, I do think an investigation ought to be launched into her family background. She doesn't look like any McNeill I've ever seen. I have reason to suspect that her surname has been culturally appropriated.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296984 posts
Posted on 5/25/17 at 12:17 am to
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Sounds like the free market determined this business wasn't fit to compete 


Socialists only appreciate free markets when they claim it works to shut down a business they dislike.
Posted by Dont_Call_Me_RAY
Member since Feb 2017
1439 posts
Posted on 5/25/17 at 12:37 am to
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Socialists only appreciate free markets when they claim it works to shut down a business they dislike.

Exactly. They made a list of white owned restaurants in Portland they claim are guilty of cultural appropriation. One is called Chicken and Guns. They are out to ruin people and it is disgusting. I found out one fat bitch who was behind the list..just another white guilt liberal.
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
42158 posts
Posted on 5/25/17 at 12:40 am to
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Seriously? What would make you think Tee has an actual job?


Professional dress and proper use of grammar make it unlikely that she's a welfare leech.

She is employed somewhere.
Posted by LasVegasTiger
Idaho
Member since Apr 2008
8544 posts
Posted on 5/25/17 at 12:46 am to
I fly into Portland a good bit for work. This Mondays flight in I saw a guy trying to check a unicycle, one guy on the flight had on a dress, another had on a top hat and finally the women across the aisle reached up to get her bags and looked like she had buckwheat in a headlock.

Weird town.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
37127 posts
Posted on 5/25/17 at 1:44 am to
The concept of cultural appropriation is so deranged it shouldn't merit discussion. All sharing of literature, music, painting, textiles, and culinary arts are possible to consider acts of appropriation.

Every person aspiring to be great in their chosen field seeks to expose themselves to the excellence of their antecedents and contemporaries - and to be significant enough in turn to be imitated in some similar fashion. To villainize cross cultural pollination as theft ought to enrage any thoughtful person.

That isn't theft. This is how groups of people adopt better ideas.
Posted by chinhoyang
Member since Jun 2011
25649 posts
Posted on 5/25/17 at 2:22 am to
One of our local Mexican food places is operated by a Korean family.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 5/25/17 at 2:47 am to
They sure had the name pegged
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
47239 posts
Posted on 5/25/17 at 5:13 am to
White people are pretty stupid.
Posted by Jorts R Us
Member since Aug 2013
16891 posts
Posted on 5/25/17 at 5:27 am to
So this would be the same reaction if a Mexican dude owned a McDonald's franchise, right?
Posted by Placebeaux
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Member since Jun 2008
51852 posts
Posted on 5/25/17 at 5:40 am to
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I guess whitey is not allowed to cook Mexican food.


or Chinese food

Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/25/17 at 5:43 am to
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White women forced to close business because of appropriation complaints


This stuff shows how stupid minority SJWs are.

Ok.

All blacks should be banned from symphonies.

No blacks or Hispanics Can specialize in cooking French or Italian cuisine

Only white people can play football

I'm sure this list can get long.
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