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Which country had the best all around military in world war 1?

Posted on 7/17/18 at 10:21 am
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
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Posted on 7/17/18 at 10:21 am
Talking supplies ammunition weaponry, artillery support, planes, tanks, training and size of force and if any of it changed throughout the war. I know everything was pretty close in most accounts, but wondering if there was 1 country with a slight edge over the rest
Posted by Cash
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Posted on 7/17/18 at 10:22 am to
Germany
Posted by WinnPtiger
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Posted on 7/17/18 at 10:23 am to
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Germany

Posted by Tigers0891
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Posted on 7/17/18 at 10:23 am to
Back to back world war champs
Posted by 225bred
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Posted on 7/17/18 at 10:23 am to
Germans.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 7/17/18 at 10:25 am to
Germany, and it really isn't much of a question. None of their allies were pulling their own weight, with the Ottomans fricking around and Austria being a disaster. It's debatable that WWI Germany was more impressive than WWII Germany relatively speaking.
This post was edited on 7/17/18 at 10:27 am
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
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Posted on 7/17/18 at 10:28 am to
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Germany, and it really isn't much of a question. None of their allies were pulling their own weight, with the Ottomans fricking around and Austria being a disaster. It's debatable that WWI Germany was more impressive than WWII Germany relatively speaking
so they were the best in every category? Did they use the same training for ww1 and ww2?
Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 7/17/18 at 10:29 am to
The Royal Navy won the war for GB while firing very few shots, by blockading the German coast. The one time Germany made a serious attempt to fight them in a mass fleet action, they only managed a draw despite catching every break. They never tried again. Germany's desperation offensive in 1918 was an effort to win the war before starvation set in.
Posted by Dizz
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Posted on 7/17/18 at 10:29 am to
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Back to back world war champs



The US and Britain.
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
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Posted on 7/17/18 at 10:30 am to
I thought the u boats were pretty effective?
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 7/17/18 at 10:31 am to
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so they were the best in every category? Did they use the same training for ww1 and ww2?



Not the tanks and supply lines, but everything else, pretty much. You got to keep in mind that the French and the English had a big advantage towards the start and middle of the war that Germany did not: American financing and trade. That's a huge advantage that allowed them to play a longer game than Germany itself could.
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
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Posted on 7/17/18 at 10:32 am to
So basically 5he germans lacked the industrial power to match the other countries with the sheer volume of resources. Similar to wwII
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 7/17/18 at 10:32 am to
Germany. Hands down.



It was only attrition and the British Blockade, plus the infusion of American supplies and eventually troops, that defeated them.


Honestly would have been better for the Germans to score an early victory. Would have turned out better for the world as a whole.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 7/17/18 at 10:37 am to
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It's debatable that WWI Germany was more impressive than WWII Germany relatively speaking.

Carlin had an episode on this and he said WWI Germany was better because their hierarchy was based on merit, not political connection. The amount of resources Hitler wasted on his projects of grandeur and fantasy really killed the effectiveness of the war effort.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 7/17/18 at 10:38 am to
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So basically 5he germans lacked the industrial power to match the other countries with the sheer volume of resources. Similar to wwII



Not industrial power, but financial and agriculture wise, yeah. Who were they going to trade with? The Austrians and Ottomans? They don't bring nearly as much to the table as the British, French, and Americans. Remember that the sun never set on the British Empire, and they had tons of resources to their disposal. Germany and the Austrians hadn't colonized shite.

And there's a big difference with WWII and WWI: From the moment that Hitler came to power, he began to prepare for war. WWI just snuck up on everyone, to where Germany didn't have the time to prepare. Hitler's only major problem by the time he invaded Poland was oil and rubber (which he was receiving from the Soviets at the time), and had all the rest of his ducks lined in a row.
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 7/17/18 at 10:38 am to
Germany is likely 1 and France 2


France went balls deep in baddassery in WWI
Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 7/17/18 at 10:40 am to
They were, but it was a move made from weakness. They could not compete using existing technology, so they went in a new direction. And, by the end of the war, the allies were developing methods to counter the uboats, Namely the convoy system and sonar. While uboats caused a lot of hardship, they never threatened to put Britain out of the war. The Royal Navy had a stranglehold on German imports.

Based on the WW1 experience, Hitler was so focused on Eastward expansion because he did not believe he could compete with British seapower. He wanted access to resources that were not subject to interdiction.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 7/17/18 at 10:40 am to
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The amount of resources Hitler wasted on his projects of grandeur and fantasy really killed the effectiveness of the war effort.


The fact was the Nazis were too fricking evil to be efficient. They had everything going for them, but they wasted millions of their own troops through genocide and implementing said genocide. If they were smart and not pure fricking evil, they could have easily plowed through Russia coming as liberators. Unfortunately they made it clear by murdering, raping, and pillaging away across the Soviet countryside that they were coming to enslave and wipe them out as well.
Posted by Cash
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Posted on 7/17/18 at 10:41 am to
The French were still using Napoleons tactics in the beginning of WW1.
Posted by Lsuhack1
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Posted on 7/17/18 at 10:44 am to
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WWI Germany was more impressive than WWII Germany relatively speaking.

It isn't debatable its a fact. WWI Germany beat Russia.
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