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re: Which country had the best all around military in world war 1?
Posted on 7/17/18 at 10:46 am to Hawgnsincebirth55
Posted on 7/17/18 at 10:46 am to Hawgnsincebirth55
South Africa
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Posted on 7/17/18 at 10:49 am to Hawgnsincebirth55
I'm pretty sure France did at the beginning of the war. As the war progressed it was Germany.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 10:49 am to Lsuhack1
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It isn't debatable its a fact. WWI Germany beat Russia
Well a little Revolution kinda happened too
This post was edited on 7/17/18 at 10:51 am
Posted on 7/17/18 at 10:53 am to Dire Wolf
And Germany didn't try to invade and conquer the whole country.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 10:58 am to Hawgnsincebirth55
Good question. I don’t know. If I had to guess Germany.
My paternal great grandfather was a ww1 vet and my grand pa a ww 2 vet. My dad never had any stories about either one since it’s something they never talked to my dad about.
Now that my dad is no longer with us and me being in OEF I wonder if I can find any records of their service.
My paternal great grandfather was a ww1 vet and my grand pa a ww 2 vet. My dad never had any stories about either one since it’s something they never talked to my dad about.
Now that my dad is no longer with us and me being in OEF I wonder if I can find any records of their service.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 10:58 am to Dizz
quote:quote:The US
Back to back world war champs
Fify
The island boys couldn’t have won without us. We could have won without them.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 10:58 am to Dire Wolf
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Well a little Revolution kinda happened too
Thanks to the Germans smuggling Lenin into Russia.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 11:00 am to fr33manator
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Would have turned out better for the world as a whole.
Yea, I’d probably be a billionaire and not just a peasant millionaire had Germany won
Posted on 7/17/18 at 11:02 am to OMLandshark
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The fact was the Nazis were too fricking evil to be efficient. They had everything going for them, but they wasted millions of their own troops through genocide and implementing said genocide. If they were smart and not pure fricking evil, they could have easily plowed through Russia coming as liberators. Unfortunately they made it clear by murdering, raping, and pillaging away across the Soviet countryside that they were coming to enslave and wipe them out as well.
You're always so off base on this subject.
The German military in WWII was incredibly efficient. That they achieved what they did was absolutely remarkable and defied the odds that were stacked against them from the outset.
The German military leadership thought Hitler was even crazy to risk war with Czechoslovakia because of how unprepared Germany's armed forces and industry were given that rearmament only began in secret in 1933-34 and openly in 1935. They anticipated a very tough campaign simply fighting the Czechs, much less the potential British and French involvement that was likely to bring. Germany had limited population, resources, and was in a vulnerable geopolitical position to take on the entrenched powers that she fought.
Suggesting that the Germans could have "easily plowed through Russia" if they just hadn't been so harsh to the local populations is flat out absurd.
Germany's military doctrine of bewegungskrieg was predicated on their need to win swift and decisive battles due to their weak geopolitical positioning relative to her foes. Essentially an acknowledgment of their disadvantageous situation.
The image of the Wehrmacht being an unstoppable war machine was merely the result of their stunning victories over Poland, France, and the BEF and was not based in some realistic assessment of the German military as a massive, dominant force. They did not have the manpower nor logistical capabilities to effectively take on the tasks asked of them and the Soviet war illustrated this all too clearly. Add in the United States to the equation and the strategic conditions were laughably against Germany.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 11:02 am to Jim Rockford
So it sounds that in a way the British naval power was a big part in winning both world wars since the germans never developed the capability for sea trade. I've often heard that a great navy beats a great army. Idk if that's true but I remember hearing that somewhere and people saying that is why America tries to have the largest and strongest navy in the world
Posted on 7/17/18 at 11:04 am to OMLandshark
Land: Gemrany (and it’s not even close)
Sea: Great Britian (Germany a close second)
Air: Germany most of the war. Great Britian toward the end.
Overall: Germany
Sea: Great Britian (Germany a close second)
Air: Germany most of the war. Great Britian toward the end.
Overall: Germany
Posted on 7/17/18 at 11:04 am to OMLandshark
I thought Lenin was a German or German Jew
Posted on 7/17/18 at 11:05 am to Hawgnsincebirth55
The brits always had an incredible navyThey had to considering all their colonies
This post was edited on 7/17/18 at 11:06 am
Posted on 7/17/18 at 11:06 am to lsucoonass
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I thought Lenin was a German or German Jew
Negative. Full name, Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov.
Karl Marx was a German Jew though he was not a practitioner of Judaism.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 11:07 am to ChewyDante
Many Jews weren’t
Yeah I wasn’t a history buff
Yeah I wasn’t a history buff
Posted on 7/17/18 at 11:08 am to OMLandshark
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Thanks to the Germans smuggling Lenin into Russia.
I’d argue that the gears of revolution were in place with or without Lenin getting smuggled in.
I mean hell, the February revolution preceded his return to Russia
Posted on 7/17/18 at 11:11 am to Hawgnsincebirth55
I think it was a toss up between Britain and the Germans. The Germans had the industrial might as well as internal infastructure prior to the war t make them powerful, They had the best rail system and probably the most professional army. They had problems though with natural resources.
The British had the navy and manpower due to its empire. Over 1 million Indians fought in Europe during the war along with Canadians and ANZUS troops as well as Africans. The British also had the advantage of being able to access oil due to their agreements in Persia and with the Dutch .
The British had the navy and manpower due to its empire. Over 1 million Indians fought in Europe during the war along with Canadians and ANZUS troops as well as Africans. The British also had the advantage of being able to access oil due to their agreements in Persia and with the Dutch .
Posted on 7/17/18 at 11:13 am to ChewyDante
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The German military in WWII was incredibly efficient. That they achieved what they did was absolutely remarkable and defied the odds that were stacked against them from the outset.
They were efficient to the point of it interfering with their evil plans. If WWI leadership had WWII's army, they would have dominated.
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The German military leadership thought Hitler was even crazy to risk war with Czechoslovakia because of how unprepared Germany's armed forces and industry were given that rearmament only began in secret in 1933-34 and openly in 1935. They anticipated a very tough campaign simply fighting the Czechs, much less the potential British and French involvement that was likely to bring. Germany had limited population, resources, and was in a vulnerable geopolitical position to take on the entrenched powers that she fought.
Hitler was crazy and maybe the biggest gambler in modern history. It worked, sure, but it was a nuts idea. It was just a "so crazy it might just work" idea.
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Suggesting that the Germans could have "easily plowed through Russia" if they just hadn't been so harsh to the local populations is flat out absurd.
If Hitler hadn't diverted from Moscow, I think he would have beaten Stalin. The WWI leadership and generals would not have made this same mistake.
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Add in the United States to the equation and the strategic conditions were laughably against Germany.
The US wasn't in the war at that point, and what happens once Nazi Germany has mass oil and rubber supplies?
Posted on 7/17/18 at 11:13 am to Hawgnsincebirth55
Which year? In 1914 the US was a mere nothing, but by 1917 that was no longer true.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 11:15 am to ChewyDante
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Suggesting that the Germans could have "easily plowed through Russia" if they just hadn't been so harsh to the local populations is flat out absurd.
Not necessarily. The Ukraine was very open to throwing off Stalin. The Germans could have utilized Ukrainian manpower to help defeat the Soviets if they hadn't been so harsh. Not to mention the vast resources diverted to fighting partisans behind the lines.
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