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re: When will women stop their charade?

Posted on 12/30/15 at 12:21 pm to
Posted by Kujo
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Posted on 12/30/15 at 12:21 pm to
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Maybe confidence is what they are attracted to

This guy gets it.


Confidence in what exactly?

Say your average engineer...more intelligent than 99%, much higher pay than the average, probably owns a home(non-renter), decent car(may be a honda, but decent)....what's he not confident in? say compared to an unemployed chain smoking druggie dead beat with tats who dodges calls from creditors? Is it maybe that he's not confident in the logical choice a girl will make?
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Posted on 12/30/15 at 12:24 pm to
Confident in himself. Maybe he is much better, but he could have zero self confidence. I know a few pretty successful guys that get quiet when a girl starts talking to them
Posted by Kujo
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Posted on 12/30/15 at 12:30 pm to
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Confident in himself. Maybe he is much better, but he could have zero self confidence


more subjectivity. what instills confidence? I remember a practical joke that was played on a comedian where they set-up a fake audience who wouldn't laugh at anything he said. The guy lost his mind on stage and quit mid-set...was it he that didn't have confidence, or was it the response of the audience that removed all confidence he had?
This post was edited on 12/30/15 at 12:31 pm
Posted by jmcs68
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Posted on 12/30/15 at 12:32 pm to
Confidence doesn't come by what you own, yet comes by who you are as an individual. It has nothing to do with looks or your bank account. It has more to do with how you handle yourself when you don't necessarily have those things going for you.
Posted by Hammertime
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Posted on 12/30/15 at 12:33 pm to
My guess is the comedy was a cover-up for low self esteem


I don't know how to magically give people confidence
Posted by AjaxFury
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Posted on 12/30/15 at 12:36 pm to
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This guy gets it.


And probably gets it.



Nobody bats 1.000, but we sure do try to stay a .300 or better hitter
Posted by Pecker
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Posted on 12/30/15 at 12:58 pm to
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Not sure about that, I saw something about how 80% of gastric bypass patients divorce their spouse within 2 years of the surgery.

I think that shines light on that it's just about pass/fail on what you perceive you should be able to pull.


Gastric bypass? I was talking about an early 20's-ish chubby girl who's had weight issues since high school and decided to hit the gym, started eating right, and knocked off 30 to 50 (max) pounds. I'm not talking about hanging out at the short-stay unit at the hospital and trying to score gastric bypass patients pushing 3 bills.
Posted by Bonkers119
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Posted on 12/30/15 at 1:10 pm to
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Men are reported to average anywhere between 5 and 9 partners their entire life.


I'm 28 and single and my number is closer to 20. Some years are better than others though.
This post was edited on 12/30/15 at 1:13 pm
Posted by Hammertime
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Posted on 12/30/15 at 1:10 pm to
Fat girls that get skinny have a new found freedom and are more susceptible to taking kindly to compliments to prove their self worth
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 12/30/15 at 1:20 pm to
I think you're right....when it comes to trashy women, and overly vain women. I think no matter what, most women come to the realization that looks and all of that will not make them happy in the long term, and people look different as they age....its a 100% chance everyone will age.

I encourage you do away with this mindset, because its simply not completely true.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/30/15 at 1:24 pm to
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 12/30/15 at 1:26 pm to
Hijack/

Jake, you coming to Rummel with me Saturday?

/Hijack
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/30/15 at 1:28 pm to
can't. got one of my bruv's surprise bday parties to cook for. doing korean BBQ ribs
Posted by Kujo
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Posted on 12/30/15 at 1:28 pm to
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I encourage you do away with this mindset, because there's nothing you can do about it.
Posted by RockAndRollDetective
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Posted on 12/30/15 at 1:29 pm to
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I remember a practical joke that was played on a comedian where they set-up a fake audience who wouldn't laugh at anything he said. The guy lost his mind on stage and quit mid-set...was it he that didn't have confidence, or was it the response of the audience that removed all confidence he had?

You're comparing a practical joke to genuine interaction. The "response of the audience" in normal interaction is not purposely false as it is in your scenario. There's no parallel there.

If you're getting a "wouldn't laugh" response in real relationships, it's not a set-up. You're simply doing something wrong.
Posted by Kujo
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Posted on 12/30/15 at 1:36 pm to
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If you're getting a "wouldn't laugh" response in real relationships, it's not a set-up. You're simply doing something wrong.


A girl touches your arm, gives you a look from afar, smiles in your direction.....these give you confidence. If you get no cues, then you're always going in dry. It's not a "I want him" scenario, it's a "uuhhh, welll, I guess he's cute enough to fleece for a few dinners before I friendzone him when the guy I really want comes around"
This post was edited on 12/30/15 at 1:42 pm
Posted by Hog on the Hill
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Posted on 12/30/15 at 1:49 pm to
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Confidence in what exactly?

Say your average engineer...more intelligent than 99%, much higher pay than the average, probably owns a home(non-renter), decent car(may be a honda, but decent)....what's he not confident in? say compared to an unemployed chain smoking druggie dead beat with tats who dodges calls from creditors? Is it maybe that he's not confident in the logical choice a girl will make?

Well he's not competing against the druggie dead beat, he's competing against the middle manager across town that's also intelligent, makes good money, owns a home, etc. This is why personality is important--because in a large enough town, the desirable women have plenty of attractive options.

edit: you are also making the assumption that humans are entirely rational, when they actually are not. A person can have a great life on paper and still have low self-esteem. Sometimes it's a chronic problem that's followed them through life, sometimes it's due to recent hardships or emotional trauma. But pretty much everyone will have a crisis of self-esteem at some point in their lives.
This post was edited on 12/30/15 at 1:52 pm
Posted by RockAndRollDetective
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Posted on 12/30/15 at 1:49 pm to
This seems to be a bit of a chicken-and-the-egg conundrum.

Do you not have confidence because of cold reactions from women or do women react coldly because of your innate lack of confidence?
Posted by Kujo
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Posted on 12/30/15 at 1:59 pm to
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Well he's not competing against the druggie dead beat,


the druggie deadbeat is a virgin in your scenario? Have you been to Louisiana's meth capital?
Posted by Hog on the Hill
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Posted on 12/30/15 at 2:07 pm to
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the druggie deadbeat is a virgin in your scenario? Have you been to Louisiana's meth capital?
Whether he's a virgin or not is irrelevant in this scenario.
This post was edited on 12/30/15 at 2:08 pm
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