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re: "When our children tell us who they are, it's our job as grown-ups to listen and to..
Posted on 8/29/25 at 9:15 am to Cell of Awareness
Posted on 8/29/25 at 9:15 am to Cell of Awareness
I think we need to get away from some of the extremes on this.
If children tell us they don't want to go to school or get an education, do we let them do that?
If children tell us they want to punch another kid in the face, do we let them do that?
If children tell us they want to go to war and push buttons for bombs, do we let them?
If children tell us their unicorn toy is real, is it our job to listen and believe that that unicorn is real?
The reason 18 and 21 are important ages for people in this country is because it is supposed to be around the age where you are developed enough to make decisions on your own.
You are not developed enough to know what you are or what you want to be at 8. When I was 8 I was going to be the President. Donald beat me to it.
If children tell us they don't want to go to school or get an education, do we let them do that?
If children tell us they want to punch another kid in the face, do we let them do that?
If children tell us they want to go to war and push buttons for bombs, do we let them?
If children tell us their unicorn toy is real, is it our job to listen and believe that that unicorn is real?
The reason 18 and 21 are important ages for people in this country is because it is supposed to be around the age where you are developed enough to make decisions on your own.
You are not developed enough to know what you are or what you want to be at 8. When I was 8 I was going to be the President. Donald beat me to it.
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Posted on 8/29/25 at 9:17 am to bad93ex
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This is what happens when you give more credence to emotional arguments rather than logical thought.
"Toxic femininity."
Misplaced "empathy" and a total lack of understanding that we are guardians as well as guides.
Posted on 8/29/25 at 9:18 am to BluegrassBelle
quote:I agree with that, but I am referring to more than just the trans issue.
Listening to what they have to say and what you do with that information is two different things though. Like Odyssey said, there’s value in listening and getting on their level to find out why they feel the way they feel. That doesn’t mean you have to go all in on a sex change for a minor though (I get that’s what the person speaking in OP is suggesting, I’m not agreeing with that).
Certain political elements give far too much credence to the thoughts and opinions of children.
Hell, progressives give weight to the political views of children.
It is asinine.
Like I said, we should disregard the views of most adults, let alone give more weight to the thoughts of children.
This post was edited on 8/29/25 at 9:22 am
Posted on 8/29/25 at 9:18 am to Oates Mustache
quote:this is a statement from someone that musn’t have ventured to the poli board recently
since we possess a much higher level of critical thinking and logic,
Posted on 8/29/25 at 9:20 am to SuperSaint
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this is a statement from someone that musn’t have ventured to the poli board recently
ohhh I have and do. Even though I'm conservative, I get labeled as a liberal because I dare to call out some craziness. This post was edited on 8/29/25 at 9:21 am
Posted on 8/29/25 at 9:24 am to Cell of Awareness
The left wants to be a friend to their children. The right wants to parent them.
Posted on 8/29/25 at 9:26 am to Oates Mustache
quote:crazy shite
Orrrrrrr, hear me out, since we possess a much higher level of critical thinking and logic, we don't.
Posted on 8/29/25 at 9:26 am to Odysseus32
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I just don't understand what you think you're going to get from this. The kid will resent you.
It actually works from everything I’ve seen. Take them away from the social contagion and it tends to right itself. Plus my parents live in Oxford, so it’s not like I’m making them go live on a shite hole farm in the middle of the Delta, I just want them away from the Woke shite and it should correct itself with simultaneous gentle and tough love.
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The child is so unlikely to respect you for this when their brain develops fully. Your intent does not matter when they have cut you off because they feel like you didn't love them enough to actually ask. I don't mean to confirm. I mean to ask them what's going on.
I am asking them and loving them, and loving them means taking them out of an environment that is harming them and putting them in one that will nurture them and make them into secure and strong human beings. Do you know how many teenagers have told their parents that they hate them at one point by not letting them do what they want to do? 60-70%? Yeah, a threat or insult like that isn’t going to inhibit me.
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I understand the desire to confirm where you think it's coming from, but you can't know. You're not omnipotent.
I know that men can’t become women and women can’t become men. End of story. I’m not going to affirm it anymore than if my daughter came up to me and said she was a fat pig weighing in at 85 pounds. That is not loving them to affirm it, although I would listen on why they think that and then correct that line of thinking.
All these scumbags that confuse these children that they were born in the wrong body are merely Ursula looking to steal these children’s souls and destroy their lives. They are pure evil and I will remove these evil influences from my child’s life:
Posted on 8/29/25 at 9:30 am to Cell of Awareness
Minnesota is the land of a thousand flakes.
Posted on 8/29/25 at 9:31 am to Cell of Awareness
If they say they are fish, should they be held underwater?
Posted on 8/29/25 at 9:33 am to Cell of Awareness
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"When our children tell us who they are, it is our job as grown-ups to listen and to believe them."
When my 2 year old tells me he is Daniel Tiger I listen and believe him in that moment that he wants to play pretend. When he tells me he hasn't pooped but I can smell it in his diaper I don't believe him.
Our jobs as grown-ups are to make sure our kids have their emotions listened to while also guiding them on a path to healthy mental and physical development with the knowledge we have as adults.
Giving your child huge doses of hormones and irreversible cosmetic surgery is "listening" to them but not parenting them and guiding them to a path of healthy mental and physical development.
Modern liberals are mentally unwell adults, so shouldn't be any surprise they are happy raising mentally unwell children.
This post was edited on 8/29/25 at 9:39 am
Posted on 8/29/25 at 9:54 am to Odysseus32
quote:Do both.
I would be incredibly curious to know why he was feeling that or why he thought that. I definitely wouldn't start the conversation by telling him that what he's feeling isn't valid.
Posted on 8/29/25 at 9:55 am to Cell of Awareness
My brother insisted he was a dolphin when he was a toddler.
Posted on 8/29/25 at 10:04 am to PurpleSingularity
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So if your son tells you he is a pirate, I expect an amputation of one of his legs immediately….right?
I get and agree with this argument, except for one thing:
not all pirates were amputees, so why is that thing we use in the example?
Posted on 8/29/25 at 10:04 am to Cell of Awareness
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When our children tell us who they are, it is our job as grown-ups to listen and to believe them
In a roundabout way, I somewhat agree with this (I would reword and qualify significantly). So, when we listen and believe that they are indeed mentally ill, it’s then our responsibility to get them the help they actually need and not what a perverse anti-scientific, anti-reality pagan cult demands.
Posted on 8/29/25 at 10:07 am to Cell of Awareness
The job of a parent is to teach the child who they are.
Posted on 8/29/25 at 10:09 am to StrongOffer
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The job of a parent is to teach the child who they are.
No, the job of a parent is to create a strong and secure child. A parent truly doesn’t know who their child is and if you try to mold them too much into what you demand of them to be, then that will create a terrible relationship. That was the relationship between my dad and his father, and it wasn’t good.
Posted on 8/29/25 at 10:11 am to Cell of Awareness
Well most teenagers don't listen to their parents so shouldn't we return the favor....
Posted on 8/29/25 at 10:13 am to Cell of Awareness
My kid thinks he’s Sully from Monster’s Inc.. what should I do about that?
Posted on 8/29/25 at 10:18 am to OMLandshark
Teaching them who they are doesn’t mean the same as what you said. Maybe I can phrase it better, but I mean teaching them what it is to be strong man/woman. Teaching them right from wrong. Teaching them that God made us in his own imagine and likeness and that we’re not merely body but also spirit. And with that they a duty to God, parents, friends, and society. Teaching them that freedom doesn’t mean they can do whatever they want, but doing what they ought to do. Teaching them who they are means teaching them who they belong to: God
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