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When it’s cold like this, I am thankful, and think of the lads in WW1, and true cold.
Posted on 2/18/21 at 12:14 am
Posted on 2/18/21 at 12:14 am
Boys far and away from home, in long graves cut out of the cursed mud, crammed with bodies and blood and gore.
Shellshocked from the constant cacaphony of whizz-bangs, the relentless drumming of endless mortars, turning farmlands to Mordor, murder fields where generations were wasted, butchered as lambs for the whims of those who sipped brandy in heated rooms.
So maybe, for a few scant minutes, step outside in this bitter cold and imagine a place where your forebears might be stuck, with no warm hearth to retreat to.
Or sit out in the cold for an hour or more, Feel the fell clutch of General Winter seep into your toes and fingers and raise a glass to those boys, on both sides, who sat in frozen trenches while leaden death screamed from just atop the breastworks.
Remember the halcyon days, lads.
We haven’t known how cold it is when the only respite you have from the cruel winds of winter are the walls of earth mingled with the blood of fallen friends. We haven’t experienced what it’s like to see the snowflakes bury frozen corpses, and all you can do to fend off the bitter ice in your bones is to fire off a few rounds and clutch close to the deadly heat of your rifle.
We are the lucky. The so very lucky that our lines left those hells on earth and, scarred and scared and scattered as they may have been, brought forth a progeny that might feel a little cold in their bones and be able to flee to warm houses.
I freeze outside for a bit tonight, and drink Some good whiskey, and raise a glass to the ones who would not grow old. Because a little less than a century ago, men fought and died and more importantly, lived, through this frozen hell.
so here’s to warm beds. Here’s to strong booze. Here’s to good women. Here’s to sweet children. May they never know the sacrifices our forbears made to bring us to these golden years. And may we never repeat their follies.
To those without heat, I hope a warm blanket and a fire find you. To those without water here’s to being able to slake your thirst soon.
The ice will thaw and spring will follow winter.
Shellshocked from the constant cacaphony of whizz-bangs, the relentless drumming of endless mortars, turning farmlands to Mordor, murder fields where generations were wasted, butchered as lambs for the whims of those who sipped brandy in heated rooms.
So maybe, for a few scant minutes, step outside in this bitter cold and imagine a place where your forebears might be stuck, with no warm hearth to retreat to.
Or sit out in the cold for an hour or more, Feel the fell clutch of General Winter seep into your toes and fingers and raise a glass to those boys, on both sides, who sat in frozen trenches while leaden death screamed from just atop the breastworks.
Remember the halcyon days, lads.
We haven’t known how cold it is when the only respite you have from the cruel winds of winter are the walls of earth mingled with the blood of fallen friends. We haven’t experienced what it’s like to see the snowflakes bury frozen corpses, and all you can do to fend off the bitter ice in your bones is to fire off a few rounds and clutch close to the deadly heat of your rifle.
We are the lucky. The so very lucky that our lines left those hells on earth and, scarred and scared and scattered as they may have been, brought forth a progeny that might feel a little cold in their bones and be able to flee to warm houses.
I freeze outside for a bit tonight, and drink Some good whiskey, and raise a glass to the ones who would not grow old. Because a little less than a century ago, men fought and died and more importantly, lived, through this frozen hell.
so here’s to warm beds. Here’s to strong booze. Here’s to good women. Here’s to sweet children. May they never know the sacrifices our forbears made to bring us to these golden years. And may we never repeat their follies.
To those without heat, I hope a warm blanket and a fire find you. To those without water here’s to being able to slake your thirst soon.
The ice will thaw and spring will follow winter.
Posted on 2/18/21 at 12:19 am to fr33manator
Have never watched Band of Brothers until yesterday and believe I can tolerate this temporary inconvenience
Posted on 2/18/21 at 12:20 am to fr33manator
One of the most criminal wastes of human lives in world history. Millions died because of a squabble between cousins.
Posted on 2/18/21 at 12:27 am to fr33manator
This post was edited on 2/18/21 at 12:28 am
Posted on 2/18/21 at 12:30 am to fr33manator
Salute to a generation of men that’d be ashamed of what they fought for if they could see us now.
ETA: salute to the women who stepped up on the domestic front as well
ETA: salute to the women who stepped up on the domestic front as well
This post was edited on 2/18/21 at 12:33 am
Posted on 2/18/21 at 12:53 am to SCLibertarian
I can’t even comprehend the misery of battles like Verdun and Passchendaele. Imagine spending weeks in the mud and the cold rain, praying you don’t get struck by a shell or shot by a sniper and knowing the enemy could rush your position at any moment, or that you could be ordered to do the same. No wonder so many men who survived WWI lost their minds after living in an environment of such stress and terror.
All wars are terrible, but there’s something especially sad about WWI. There were countless battles where hundreds of thousands lost their lives for ultimately no strategic purpose. Entire towns of Europe’s best young men were thrown away, and WWII finished off much of what was left. Much of the landscape still hasn’t recovered from being shelled to oblivion 100 years ago.
The Western Front gets most of the attention, but the Italian Front and Eastern Front were just as bad when it came to terrible generals wasting their troops’ lives in hopeless campaigns. Luigi Cadorna and Conrad von Hotzendorf are two of the most incompetent men to ever command armies in human history.
All wars are terrible, but there’s something especially sad about WWI. There were countless battles where hundreds of thousands lost their lives for ultimately no strategic purpose. Entire towns of Europe’s best young men were thrown away, and WWII finished off much of what was left. Much of the landscape still hasn’t recovered from being shelled to oblivion 100 years ago.
The Western Front gets most of the attention, but the Italian Front and Eastern Front were just as bad when it came to terrible generals wasting their troops’ lives in hopeless campaigns. Luigi Cadorna and Conrad von Hotzendorf are two of the most incompetent men to ever command armies in human history.
This post was edited on 2/18/21 at 12:54 am
Posted on 2/18/21 at 12:53 am to fr33manator
Those men were amazing.
Posted on 2/18/21 at 1:13 am to fr33manator
Hear hear. I believe Korean War particularly in the north was deadly cold as well. Under less than ideal conditions, to say the least.
Posted on 2/18/21 at 1:13 am to Michael Stein
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Passchendaele
The stories I have heard and read about the mud.
The slick duckboards being the only way to navigate the mud filled craters.
Mud that would suck men down. Sometimes not all the way, so they’d be stuck there. Unable to escape and denied the honor of a quick death.
Sometimes they’d beg for mercy, crying out as they were swallowed by the agonizing mud, a thick and thankless grave.
Posted on 2/18/21 at 1:15 am to Michael Stein
The men were chewed like burger,
Wilting wheat before the thresher,
As chattering machine guns claimed whole pals brigades of sons,
The war that was to be a jolly rout was far from pleasure,
As mankind met modern murder in that hell of World War One.
Artillery rained down and blew me mate's brains out his backside,
As hills were turned to plains without a single plow in sight,
And forests turned to toothpicks,
Grass to mud and blood and gore,
As the cannons flashed unending belching thunder through the night.
The Vickers gun spewed lead as fast as we could keep it loaded
The barrel got so hot it steamed like fog in the Ardennes,
I couldn't hear the screams when the grenade fell and exploded,
As O'leary held his belly trying to keep his insides in.
The trenches lay like rows of graves grave where only frost flowers bloomed,
Where we shivered in the frigid mud and spoke with steaming breath,
'Til gas shells came and rolled towards us bringing clouds of doom,
And cried out for our mothers as we drank in poison death
The galloping of hooves awoke me cruelly from my dreaming,
The whiz-bang boomed and I could feel the wet earth raining down,
The dirt fell from my ears and I could hear the horses screaming,
The riders strewn like broken toys all scattered on the ground.
Our boys they died in droves with each charge that was undertaken,
A generation cut to ribbons for a bit of mud,
The dying cried out through the night, the song of the forsaken,
And paid the price for cravens with each drop of valiant blood.
Were that that war to end all wars had ended senseless dying,
For politicians safe at home who sent them all away,
And no more children wept o'er graves to sounds of mothers crying,
But still they die in foreign lands up to this very day
Posted on 2/18/21 at 1:18 am to fr33manator
Paths of Glory is a great movie if you want a tiny glimpse on how horrific the conditions were.
Posted on 2/18/21 at 1:38 am to fr33manator
yeah but it was a dry cold
Posted on 2/18/21 at 5:18 am to fr33manator
great pics...when its cold I typically think of our men at the Battle of The Bulge..how unprepared they were for the snow etc.
Posted on 2/18/21 at 5:58 am to SCLibertarian
quote:
One of the most criminal wastes of human lives in world history. Millions died because of a squabble between cousins.
WW2 wasn't much better, the entire world went to war to secure Red Death for 200 million souls in China and the Soviey Union
Posted on 2/18/21 at 6:11 am to fr33manator
Sooner or later some OT lib will criticize these patriots.
Posted on 2/18/21 at 6:17 am to fr33manator
Germans
Literally, link to 2018 Thread
I thought I remembered reading OP this before.
WWI & WWII & Korea were “Variations on the Theme of Hades” for huge numbers of folks.
Literally, link to 2018 Thread
I thought I remembered reading OP this before.
WWI & WWII & Korea were “Variations on the Theme of Hades” for huge numbers of folks.
Posted on 2/18/21 at 6:19 am to fr33manator
You want to know true misery, study up on the conditions during the winter months on the Italian Front in World War I. Those trenches were thousands of feet above sea level, in the mountains, and were absolutely miserable for much of the year. Not only that, the Italians were fighting under the command of the worst military leader of the entire war (Luigi Cadorna) who essentially viewed them as canon fodder. They were never allowed to take leave, rotate off the line, or even visit bars or brothels when they had "time off." All while being thrown again and again at the Austrian lines along the Isonzo River in futile frontal attacks against positions that were well defended in mountainous terrain.
Posted on 2/18/21 at 6:26 am to fr33manator
In Flanders fields the poppies blow
Between the crosses, row on row,
That mark our place; and in the sky
The larks, still bravely singing, fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below.
We are the Dead. Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved and were loved, and now we lie,
In Flanders fields.
Take up our quarrel with the foe:
To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields.
Between the crosses, row on row,
That mark our place; and in the sky
The larks, still bravely singing, fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below.
We are the Dead. Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved and were loved, and now we lie,
In Flanders fields.
Take up our quarrel with the foe:
To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields.
Posted on 2/18/21 at 6:57 am to SEC 440
quote:
Band of Brothers
That was WW2. Bastogne was just as bad.
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