Started By
Message

re: What's up with the DA in Ascension Parish?

Posted on 4/29/26 at 10:59 am to
Posted by brass2mouth
NOLA
Member since Jul 2007
20624 posts
Posted on 4/29/26 at 10:59 am to
When stuff like this happens, generally the family of the victim is involved.

Since they were related, the family likely just wanted to be done with it. The family’s thoughts on stuff like this does bear a decent amount of weight in my experience.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476570 posts
Posted on 4/29/26 at 11:03 am to
quote:

have you seen the video of this shooting?


Given those issues I talked about earlier, it's not really impactful to me

I'm not saying he didn't do the shooting or that the shooting didn't kill this kid.

I'm saying there's a very high likelihood that jurors will look outside of this very specific factual paradigm when rendering a verdict decision.
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
24090 posts
Posted on 4/29/26 at 11:14 am to
quote:

Oh yeah, the risk:reward was way out of whack for 2nd degree murder

He got out of the vehicle, walked up to a crowd and started firing shots at a crowd of people. You act like the punch in the car changes the analysis with the “oh yeah”, but it changes nothing

That’s textbook 2nd degree

His family is comprised of a bunch of idiots
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
138527 posts
Posted on 4/29/26 at 11:22 am to
quote:

victim's family's wishes.


Respectfully disagree. My understanding is that the role of the DA is to prosecute alleged criminals in the end goal of protecting the community.

So now we have a guy out in his mid-30s with a PhD in prison life. How do we see that going for the community?
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
138527 posts
Posted on 4/29/26 at 11:24 am to
quote:

I'm saying there's a very high likelihood that jurors will look outside of this very specific factual paradigm when rendering a verdict decision.


This exact mindset a main problem that most non-lawyers have with lawyers. Many would rather settle and "win" than fight and potentially lose.
This post was edited on 4/29/26 at 11:24 am
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
32876 posts
Posted on 4/29/26 at 11:30 am to
quote:

Respectfully disagree. My understanding is that the role of the DA is to prosecute alleged criminals in the end goal of protecting the community.

The victim bill of rights also expressly states that the DA represents the interests of the victim/victim’s family. The DA ultimately has discretion to do as they please, but they are actually required to at least consider their wishes:

Victim bill of rights
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
24090 posts
Posted on 4/29/26 at 11:42 am to
quote:

The victim bill of rights also expressly states that the DA represents the interests of the victim/victim’s family. The DA ultimately has discretion to do as they please, but th

But the state is the plaintiff. Can you point out the paragraph you’re referencing?

It feels like you’re overstating the family’s impact on charging decisions in a murder case
Posted by chryso
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
13749 posts
Posted on 4/29/26 at 11:49 am to
quote:

this was a tragedy, not a crime of malice


Did he intentionally point a gun at someone and pull the trigger?
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
15035 posts
Posted on 4/29/26 at 11:52 am to
quote:

Jeezuz H. WTF? another leftist apologist. What's the Max for Manslaughter?


Think it’s 40 years. That’s up to the judge not the DA office on the sentence length.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
32876 posts
Posted on 4/29/26 at 11:53 am to
quote:

But the state is the plaintiff. Can you point out the paragraph you’re referencing? It feels like you’re overstating the family’s impact on charging decisions in a murder case

If you think I’m overstating, you may be misinterpreting what I said. The DA has discretion to do whatever they want. They also have a duty to consult with the victim/victim’s family and consider their wishes. They can ultimately ignore those wishes, but they still have to be consulted and considered, which somewhat complicates the idea that the DA only has duties to the larger community:

D. Consultation with the victim or the designated family member.
(1) The victim or the designated family member shall have the right to retain counsel to confer with law enforcement and judicial agencies regarding the disposition of the victim's case. The prosecutor may confer with the counsel retained by the victim or designated family member in the prosecution of the case. "Case" herein shall mean a criminal matter in which formal charges have been filed by the district attorney's office.
(2) Upon written notification to the district attorney's office received from the victim, or the designated family member, the district attorney's office shall, within a reasonable period of time following such notification, contact the victim and schedule a conference with the victim or a designated family member in order to obtain their view, either orally or in writing, regarding:
(a) The disposition of the criminal case by dismissal, plea, or trial.
(b) The use of available sentencing alternatives such as incarceration, probation, community service, and the payment of restitution to the victim.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476570 posts
Posted on 4/29/26 at 11:58 am to
quote:

This exact mindset a main problem that most non-lawyers have with lawyers.


The variable people seem to be upset with are the non-lawyer jurors who raise the volatility of these cases

quote:

Many would rather settle and "win" than fight and potentially lose.

With how backed up our criminal justice system is, devoting resources to risky cases like this delays justice on other cases. The DA and PDO have limited resources, and there are only so many criminal jury trial weeks in a year, and I'd imagine AP has backlog of hundreds of cases with like 15 jury trial weeks a year (assuming there are no weeks that wash out).
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
79911 posts
Posted on 4/29/26 at 11:58 am to
quote:

will be out in 11 years!
Are we certain it will be that long?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476570 posts
Posted on 4/29/26 at 11:59 am to
quote:

Are we certain it will be that long?

It's a crime of violence, but, regardless, there isn't really "good time" anymore in LA
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
32876 posts
Posted on 4/29/26 at 11:59 am to
quote:

we certain it will be that long?

Ignoring for the moment how long he’s been in, he has to serve a minimum of 85%, which on 15 is 12.75.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
79911 posts
Posted on 4/29/26 at 12:05 pm to
Sounds like a person who shouldn't ever get out. He's at least an elevated risk to cause misery for some person after future release.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
32876 posts
Posted on 4/29/26 at 12:08 pm to
quote:

Sounds like a person who shouldn't ever get out. He's at least an elevated risk to cause misery for some person after future release.

I know very little about the case, so I don’t have an opinion on any of that. Simply answering the question posed. And as an added bit of info, if he has previously been convicted of a crime of violence, he’ll have to do all 15 flat.

But under no circumstances does he serve less than 12 years and 9 months.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
79911 posts
Posted on 4/29/26 at 12:13 pm to
quote:

Simply answering the question posed
I know, thanks.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57843 posts
Posted on 4/29/26 at 12:18 pm to
quote:

Jeezuz H. WTF? another leftist apologist. What's the Max for Manslaughter?



I disagree with SFP regarding most things, but he's not wrong here. The law is more nuanced than "shoot.kill = murder = death penalty". Intent, premeditation, and what you can actually prove in court all play to it. There is more than just that, but those are some of the obvious basics.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
32876 posts
Posted on 4/29/26 at 12:25 pm to
quote:

I know, thanks.

Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
15035 posts
Posted on 4/29/26 at 12:27 pm to
quote:

That makes sense, however, cops who have shot/killed black men in self defense have gone to jail for worse things than this guy got convicted of, and he walked right up to the victim and shot him. I'd think my DA should be capable of a better conviction than this one, but I wasn't in the courtroom.


You should know better. Black community doesn’t care about black on black crime. If a cop or a white person kills or shoots a black person, then they really care, speak out, or burn buildings down. This is just another day in the hood.

I can almost guarantee the victims family wasn’t pushing for a harsh sentence for them to take this reduced plea.
This post was edited on 4/29/26 at 12:28 pm
first pageprev pagePage 3 of 5Next pagelast page

Back to top
logoFollow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News
Follow us on X, Facebook and Instagram to get the latest updates on LSU Football and Recruiting.

FacebookXInstagram