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re: What's up with the DA in Ascension Parish?

Posted on 4/29/26 at 12:31 pm to
Posted by choupiquesushi
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Posted on 4/29/26 at 12:31 pm to
Killed one seriously injured another on video, ended homecoming night for a school and community AND ended the Dville seniors last home game. The voiding of game may also cost Dville hosting a playoff game.


It’s not just AP it’s everywhere.
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 4/29/26 at 12:33 pm to
I haven’t read the entire thread, but I noticed a few references to specific intent. While that’s one way to get to Manslaughter, based on the facts outlined earlier in the thread (got punched through window, shortly thereafter shot into crowd) I think the point of contention was likely centered on “heated blood”:

(1) A homicide which would be murder under either Article 30 (first degree murder) or Article 30.1 (second degree murder), but the offense is committed in sudden passion or heat of blood immediately caused by provocation sufficient to deprive an average person of his self-control and cool reflection. Provocation shall not reduce a homicide to manslaughter if the jury finds that the offender's blood had actually cooled, or that an average person's blood would have cooled, at the time the offense was committed
Posted by Townedrunkard
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Posted on 4/29/26 at 12:34 pm to
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Ignoring for the moment how long he’s been in, he has to serve a minimum of 85%, which on 15 is 12.75.


It’s 85% now for all crimes, but this occurred before the new law went into effect so I believe he will do just 65%
This post was edited on 4/29/26 at 12:35 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/29/26 at 12:35 pm to
Not for a crime of violence.
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 4/29/26 at 12:37 pm to
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It’s 85% now for all crimes, but this occurred before the new law went into effect so I believe he will do just 65%

Ah, you’re right. Didn’t realize this happened in 2023

I’m a few years from criminal defense being my wheelhouse, but wasn’t it 65% parole (which he’s not going to get) and 75% good time? Or was it 75/85? I honestly can’t remember at this point.
Posted by Townedrunkard
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Posted on 4/29/26 at 12:39 pm to
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Not for a crime of violence.


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B.(1) Except as provided in Paragraph (2) of this Subsection, and except as provided in Paragraph (A)(5) and Subsections D, E, and H of this Section, no prisoner serving a life sentence shall be eligible for parole consideration until his life sentence has been commuted to a fixed term of years. No prisoner sentenced as a serial sexual offender shall be eligible for parole. No prisoner may be paroled while there is pending against him any indictment or information for any crime suspected of having been committed by him while a prisoner. Notwithstanding any other provisions of law to the contrary, a person convicted of a crime of violence and not otherwise ineligible for parole shall serve at least sixty-five percent of the sentence imposed before being eligible for parole. The victim or victim's family shall be notified whenever the offender is to be released, provided that the victim or victim's family has completed a Louisiana victim notice and registration form as provided in R.S. 46:1841 et seq. or has otherwise provided contact information and has indicated to the Department of Public Safety and Corrections, Louisiana Victim Outreach, that they desire such
This post was edited on 4/29/26 at 12:41 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/29/26 at 12:45 pm to
I was always told 85% for COVs by my prisoners.
Posted by Townedrunkard
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Posted on 4/29/26 at 12:46 pm to
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I’m a few years from criminal defense being my wheelhouse, but wasn’t it 65% parole (which he’s not going to get) and 75% good time? Or was it 75/85? I honestly can’t remember at this point


Well you never know, depends what governor is in office and if the family of the victim isn’t opposing it, he may very well make parole. I think good time is 85%.
This post was edited on 4/29/26 at 12:50 pm
Posted by Hangit
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Posted on 4/29/26 at 12:49 pm to
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murder requires specific intent and manslaughter doesn't.


He intended to drive by in a Mustang. He intended to fire shots at them, one of whom died due to his intended actions.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 4/29/26 at 12:53 pm to
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I was always told 85% for COVs by my prisoners.

Now that I’ve had a minute to collect my thoughts, I’m pretty sure this is how it shook out:

It used to be 75% parole 85% good time. Your inmates who told you 85% were either assuming they wouldn’t get parole or were sentenced to a crime who sentence is statutorily “without benefit of probation, parole, or suspension of sentence”.

Then we had our big criminal justice reinvestment wave, which brought it down to 65/75.

Then the truth in sentencing wave killed parole and put good time back at 85%.

With that caveat that sex offenses, second crimes of violence, etc, are flat.

Anyway, that’s the best of my recollection without going back and looking it all up
This post was edited on 4/29/26 at 12:55 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/29/26 at 12:57 pm to
I told you many years ago I have a specific contractual provision that says I don't/won't calculate "good time" and this is why. Too many variables, some of which occur after the fact.
Posted by TigerGman
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Posted on 4/29/26 at 1:07 pm to
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I disagree with SFP regarding most things, but he's not wrong here. The law is more nuanced than "shoot.kill = murder = death penalty". Intent, premeditation, and what you can actually prove in court all play to it. There is more than just that, but those are some of the obvious basics.

Ugh. It's all on video.
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 4/29/26 at 1:19 pm to
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Ugh. It's all on video.

I just watched the video and counted 12 seconds from when the vic punched him through the window and the first shot.

If I were laying odds for results at trial, they would look something like this:

< 5% chance of not guilty (either via an incredibly weak self defense claim or straight jury nullification)
15% chance of guilty of Second Degree Murder
80%+ chance of guilty of Manslaughter

Now, we can all quibble over the negotiated sentence (Manslaughter carries 0-40, for those who asked), but the ADA being willing to do a Manslaughter plea, especially at the behest of the victim's family, is the height of reasonable in this case, in my opinion.
Posted by CR4090
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Posted on 4/29/26 at 1:33 pm to
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There is no 'murderer' here


quote:

The video then reportedly showed Fowler getting out of the vehicle and walking up to a crowd before firing multiple shots from a handgun, hitting Parker and another person, officials explained.



"Au contraire, mon frère"

Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/29/26 at 1:34 pm to
Not all killings are murder.
Posted by CR4090
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Posted on 4/29/26 at 2:04 pm to
Agreed.

But when you get out of a car. Walk up to a crowd of people and start shooting that seems pretty intentional.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 4/29/26 at 2:15 pm to
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Malik deez nuts


Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 4/29/26 at 2:15 pm to
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Agreed.

But when you get out of a car. Walk up to a crowd of people and start shooting that seems pretty intentional.

Manslaughter can absolutely be intentional.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
13550 posts
Posted on 4/29/26 at 2:18 pm to
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quote:
"There is no 'murderer' here—only a family in deep pain. Malik and Tyree were best friends.


I always murder my best friends. What's the problem here?


Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 4/29/26 at 2:21 pm to
He is entitled to credit for time served since arrested. He isn’t getting credit for time served and getting out.
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