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re: What's this Scam?: Can't plug a tire if it's over five years old?

Posted on 1/31/23 at 7:12 am to
Posted by eatpie
Kentucky
Member since Aug 2018
1445 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 7:12 am to
In 30 years I've plugged my, or a family member or friends/neighbors tires 50+ times. Only had 1 fail, and it was just a bad, fast, in-the-rain plug job that needed a replug. I understand there is a VERY slight chance of catastrophic failure, but no more than the chance of the same failure from a poor tire removal, patch and remount.

It isn't rocket surgery. I have refused to plug a tire damaged beyond what I was comfortable plugging a few times.

FWIW, I grew up on a farm way out in the boonies. We fixed everything ourselves if we could. Taking a tire to a shop to be plugged by someone else was laughable.
Posted by Shwapp
Gonzales, LA
Member since Sep 2016
961 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 7:14 am to
Rubber doesn't age well.
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
16866 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 7:21 am to
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It isn't rocket surgery


Or brain science
Posted by maisweh
Member since Jan 2014
4222 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 7:39 am to
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Exactly. Any of you that use TV campers need to check your shite.

Blowouts pulling a camper cause massive damage.

Boy them China bomb tires do some damage. I found out on 55 after Ida
Posted by Tridentds
Sugar Land
Member since Aug 2011
22332 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 8:01 am to
quote:

d directly after two or three posts where people were at severe risk of death or serious injury due to tire age. But you're Aggy, so that's expected. UV rays (the sun, genius) are one of the most destructive forces on Earth, breaking down nearly everything they contact. So is pressure, a couple of thousand pounds sitting across four tires made of pliable materials on a rough surface (driveway) for years. What could go wrong? I hope there are Jersey barriers between us if you and I are on the same road.


Hey smart guy…direct from Continental tire company.

quote:

How many years will my tire(s) last? Continental is unaware of any technical data that supports a specific tire age for removal from service. However, as with other members of the tire and automotive industries, Continental recommends that all tires (including spare tires) that were manufactured more than ten (10) years previous be removed from service and be replaced with new tires, even when tires


But hey… you do you. 4 1/2 year old tires are life threatening? Yikes. Good lawd! The totally misinformed on this site never cease to amaze me.

Posted by Floyd Dawg
Silver Creek, GA
Member since Jul 2018
4597 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 8:34 am to
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I stopped off at a Mavis Tire store and they wouldn't plug mine because the screw/nail in it was on the outer ridge of the tire and said it was too close to the sidewall.

They likely have a directive from the main most office and they can't make money fixing flats.

After airing it up, I found a small independent mechanic shop and had it hot patched from the inside and rolled it another 30,000 miles. $15 I think.


This is exactly correct. The chain tire stores (Mavis, Discount, Walmart, etc) will not patch a tire under almost any circumstances, especially if it's a low profile tire.

Your best bet is to go to a small independent store to get it fixed. Also, no tire stores will plug anymore; they fail way too often.
Posted by SantaFe
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
7188 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 9:14 am to
Just take good care of your tires and they will take care of you.
Once ever 3 months I spray my tires down with Extra Virgin Olive Oil to keep them supple and firm.
Posted by TexasTiger89
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2005
25679 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 10:12 am to
I have been using plugs for 40 years and never once had an issue.
Posted by BHS78
Member since May 2017
3026 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 10:47 am to
I had a friend tell me not to use plugs because they break the steel chords in the tire. He didn't know what to say when I told him that the nail had already done that.
Posted by chinhoyang
Member since Jun 2011
25042 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 10:49 am to
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Once ever 3 months I spray my tires down with Extra Virgin Olive Oil to keep them supple and firm.


sounds more like you are making a salad
Posted by chinhoyang
Member since Jun 2011
25042 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 10:51 am to
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Continental recommends that all tires (including spare tires) that were manufactured more than ten (10) years previous be removed from service and be replaced with new tires, even when tires


This sounds right. Antique cars don't run enough miles to ever wear down a tread. You have to replace the tires based on age (or dry rot symptoms). I generally replace around ten years (if the tire is a tube tire, I put a new tube in at about 7 years)
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
21845 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 1:21 pm to
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God blessed you that day. But that's a freak accident. The rest of society shouldn't be forced to buy new tires every 4 years. Also, I-10 runs East-West, not North-South.

Look, I'm not going to stand on a soapbox and preach everyone change tires every damn year, or not attempt to fix a clean puncture. Hell, I JUST had a tire patched (using road-hazard, so free) at Walmart- and no, it wasn't "a cheap Walmart brand". I'd ordered online and they're the cheapest to mount/balance, and for something like road hazard, there's a zillion Walmart auto departments all over the country.
I have another vehicle that I did a DIY plug a couple years ago, a nail shortly after I bought the tires on that car.

Both of the above, Miatas, an NA and an NB. If you look into the Miatas and online forums on them (miata.net, etc), not only are the sizes hard to find locally, there's really only a few recommended tires for them. You don't want an off-brand, you want at least the recommended Falkons, if not higher up the ladder.

Patches and plugs are fine. I've never had one fail.

It's the sidewalls that go. Tire dressing or similar doesn't do anything other than make the outside pretty. They last longer if you don't let them run low, so the tires don't roll as much, but rubber does harden and become brittle.

every 4 years, probably overkill. You should get 5 yrs easy, more likely close to 10. But 1) you don't always know how long they've sat around, and 2) a leap-year is a convenient way to track it.

I said "we" in my post, not "I". I wasn't alone in my truck when we rolled. My son was in the back pulldown seat watching Shrek on a dvd player (he still hates that movie ), and my brother was in the passenger seat. I'm gainfully employed and make decent money, it's worth it to me to make certain I don't put family (not just myself) at risk.
quote:

Also, I-10 runs East-West, not North-South.

I'm in Baton Rouge , and to the northern part at that. Where I catch it, I get on I-110, which IS North-South.
We were headed to Nola. If you intend a straight East-West cross country drive on 10, you will take the I-12 split. I-10 swings south, going from BR to NO. I-12 skips that.

Posted by gerald65
Moss Bluff, LA
Member since Jul 2020
710 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 3:52 pm to
quote:

Plug your own tires. Super easy and cheap.


About 5 years ago, I was trying to plug a tire, like I have done for years. I reamed it out good, but could not the plug to go in. Yes, I am getting older, so I asked my much younger and strong neighbor to put in the plug.

As big and strong as he was, he could not get the plug to go in the tire. Ended up taking it to get it fixed. They got the plug to go in with out making it look to hard.

A year or so later, I tried again and same thing happened.

I wonder if the tires treads/steel belts are made a little different now vs 5+ years ago. After hurricane Laura my wife and I probably had 8+ flats.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
70929 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 4:46 pm to
Not sure if answered due real.

All tires have a 4 digit code on them.

This is the week and year of production. So a tire that had 0523 on the side would be made this week.

A tire with 1118 would be made in March of 2018.

Look for an oval with 4 numbers in it and that's the tires date .
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
10183 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 5:02 pm to
quote:

This is exactly correct. The chain tire stores (Mavis, Discount, Walmart, etc) will not patch a tire under almost any circumstances, especially if it's a low profile tire.


Well that’s just antidotal BS. Discount patched my run flat tires and didn’t even charge me.
Posted by Enadious
formerly B5Lurker City of Central
Member since Aug 2004
18261 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 5:19 pm to
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About 5 years ago, I was trying to plug a tire, like I have done for years. I reamed it out good, but could not the plug to go in. Yes, I am getting older, so I asked my much younger and strong neighbor to put in the plug


Logically, you didn't ream the hole enough. If you ream it too much, the plug would fit but leak.
Posted by AndyCBR
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2012
7932 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 9:48 pm to
quote:

About 5 years ago, I was trying to plug a tire, like I have done for years. I reamed it out good, but could not the plug to go in. Yes, I am getting older, so I asked my much younger and strong neighbor to put in the plug. As big and strong as he was, he could not get the plug to go in the tire. Ended up taking it to get it fixed. They got the plug to go in with out making it look to hard. A year or so later, I tried again and same thing happened. I wonder if the tires treads/steel belts are made a little different now vs 5+ years ago. After hurricane Laura my wife and I probably had 8+ flats.


Some tires are harder to rasp and insert the plug than others, just depends on the construction and number/type of belts.

Thats why I like the black jack kits, they supply two different diameters with the kit. Their plugs also self vulcanize and bond with the original rubber.

I have a kit in every car along with a quality 12v air compressor.
Posted by Craw Dawg
Member since Jan 2023
687 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 10:08 pm to
How bad is it?

Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
46041 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 10:09 pm to
They have 10.900 reasons not to plug a tire now
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