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re: What's the REAL issue behind the labor shortages we are seeing?
Posted on 9/27/21 at 11:06 am to goldennugget
Posted on 9/27/21 at 11:06 am to goldennugget
The government can compete with private industry by printing as much money as it wants.
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Posted on 9/27/21 at 11:08 am to goldennugget
To tag along some additional factors:
Mass exodus of Boomers leaving the job market.
Severe reduced number of J-1 visas being issued over the last 18 months.
Increase in gig economy opportunities (Instacart, Door Dash, Uber, etc) and other internet work which allow people to work the times they want instead the times management schedules them and not be tied to a physical place and time.
Issue of K-12 and daycare not completely settled.
Inflated wage advertisements but not an increase in permanent benefits or stable schedules.
Lots of little things can make a big ripple.
Mass exodus of Boomers leaving the job market.
Severe reduced number of J-1 visas being issued over the last 18 months.
Increase in gig economy opportunities (Instacart, Door Dash, Uber, etc) and other internet work which allow people to work the times they want instead the times management schedules them and not be tied to a physical place and time.
Issue of K-12 and daycare not completely settled.
Inflated wage advertisements but not an increase in permanent benefits or stable schedules.
Lots of little things can make a big ripple.
Posted on 9/27/21 at 11:09 am to goldennugget
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Is this still going on though? The type of people who would receive this money aren't exactly the type of people who will put it in the bank and live off of it
But they also are not having to pay rent, still have the increase in food stamps, probably still getting some sort of unemployment, and now getting a few hundred per kid each month. No telling what other bills, utilities they are still able to kick down the road or not pay at all.
Posted on 9/27/21 at 11:09 am to goldennugget
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Another thing is you have Waffle Houses that aren't even open 24 hours. The one near me is only open 7am to 3pm because they can't find workers. This is Waffle House we are talking about, which never closes.
That was before the new normal.
Our culture was (irreparably?) damaged by the lockdowns. People got a taste of life without shitty jobs, and now they are finding ways to get by without them even though the stimulus checks and extended unemployment have stopped.
That’s my guess at least, because it seems to me that any upset to the previous equilibrium would cause these kinds of changes. Meaning that even if a small % of truck drivers or potential fry cooks or whatever decide not to work anymore or only to work for higher wages, then we would see these kinds of effects.
Posted on 9/27/21 at 11:14 am to Earnest_P
High school kids that worked for spending money aren't working.
Posted on 9/27/21 at 11:15 am to goldennugget
I find that many people now have no understanding of business profit and loss. I've had six (unskilled) laborers or project managers interview with me for employment in the past week. All six asked about partnership in my firm before the interview was complete. They want to be given partnership before earning the company any money. I've had several colleagues state that they are getting the same questions.
BTW, none of them got an offer of employment from me. All six of them were met with "i don't know you well enough to give you a partnership in my company".
BTW, none of them got an offer of employment from me. All six of them were met with "i don't know you well enough to give you a partnership in my company".
Posted on 9/27/21 at 11:16 am to bamaclownbaby
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High school kids that worked for spending money aren't working.
This is something I notice as well. A lot less parents make their kids work these days. And for some weird arse reason, a lot of teenagers today have no interest in driving, so parents can't even use the driving/car thing to get them to work.
Posted on 9/27/21 at 11:18 am to ds_engineer
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All six asked about partnership in my firm before the interview was complete.
asked about immediate partnership, or the potential to be offered the opportunity later?
Posted on 9/27/21 at 11:19 am to ds_engineer
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They want to be given partnership before earning the company any money. I've had several colleagues state that they are getting the same questions.
People think they are worth way more than they actually are.
Posted on 9/27/21 at 11:19 am to Slagathor
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asked about immediate partnership, or the potential to be offered the opportunity later?
I want it and I want it now!!
Posted on 9/27/21 at 11:20 am to LouisianaLady
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This is something I notice as well. A lot less parents make their kids work these days. And for some weird arse reason, a lot of teenagers today have no interest in driving, so parents can't even use the driving/car thing to get them to work.
When I was 14 my mom and dad would drive me around town and force me to apply for jobs even if they didn't hire 14 year olds. It was humiliating to say the least to have to walk into all these places and ask for job applications.
My favorite part about buying my own car when I turned 16 was being able to choose places I would go apply to. Worked for the Texas Rangers in the parking lots in the summer, umpired kids baseball games, and my year round job was at a movie theatre.
EDIT: Just saw your thing about driving... that's crazy. The worst thing possible for you at my high school was to be 16 and not have a car. To quote Mean Girls, that was social suicide. I hated having a March birthday and seeing all my friends with Fall Birthdays having their cars while I didn't.
This post was edited on 9/27/21 at 11:22 am
Posted on 9/27/21 at 11:20 am to 777Tiger
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I want it and I want it now!!
that seems like such a strange and stupid ask but I'm not in that field so maybe it's commonplace?
Posted on 9/27/21 at 11:22 am to goldennugget
I don’t get it either. I thought when they stopped the UE payments here it would get better but it hasn’t.
Posted on 9/27/21 at 11:22 am to goldennugget
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When I was 14 my mom and dad would drive me around town and force me to apply for jobs even if they didn't hire 14 year olds. It was humiliating to say the least to have to walk into all these places and ask for job applications.
I bet it was humiliating because realistically a 14 year old isnt working in anything thats not their family's run business.
Posted on 9/27/21 at 11:23 am to goldennugget
When the look readership of a society realizes they can stay in power by taking from one social class and giving to another one that will in turn continue to vote to keep them in power than that society will eventually crumble or the ones being taken from will uprise and revolution will begin.
Why work when you can live off those that do and get stuff free that others have to work for
Why work when you can live off those that do and get stuff free that others have to work for
Posted on 9/27/21 at 11:24 am to Jones
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People think they are worth way more than they actually are.
In a world where you can make $20/hr assembling tacos, I’m going to respectfully disagree.
This post was edited on 9/27/21 at 11:28 am
Posted on 9/27/21 at 11:24 am to Slagathor
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I'm not in that field so maybe it's commonplace?
I have an engineering degree but have never worked in that field, I was just pulling your hula skirt
Posted on 9/27/21 at 11:24 am to Jones
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I bet it was humiliating because realistically a 14 year old isnt working in anything thats not their family's run business.
There were like 2 places that hired 14 year olds... a Winn Dixie and a pizza place called Pizza Garden. Neither of which gave me an interview. I was able to start umpiring at 14 years old though but that was just a spring and fall job but I got paid $20 a game which was a lot of money for a 14 year old. By the time I was 17 I was doing the higher leagues and making $45 a game.
2 of my friends got jobs as bat boys for the Rangers and made $80 a game. I was so jealous
Posted on 9/27/21 at 11:24 am to goldennugget
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I know a lot of it has to do with the government being too generous with handouts but is that really all there is to it?
I think that's a good part of it, but a lot of workers have also used this time to take stock about their actual worth. I love capitalism, but the workers have been getting pretty screwed for a couple of years now compared to other basic costs (housing, education, healthcare) all while C-Suite level salaries have ballooned out of control. A correction has been needed for a hot minute.
Posted on 9/27/21 at 11:25 am to goldennugget
They want $15/hour to flip burgers.
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