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re: What’s the OT view of Charleston, SC?
Posted on 10/28/19 at 12:12 pm to Mason Dixon Swine
Posted on 10/28/19 at 12:12 pm to Mason Dixon Swine
The antebellum south was a quasi feudal society where a small class of land owners held a disproportionate share of the wealth and power.
We certainly have a wealth disparity now. But it’s not the same. Jeff Bezos is rich, but not powerful, for example. And he’s not trying to fill some sort of aristocratic role in society.
We certainly have a wealth disparity now. But it’s not the same. Jeff Bezos is rich, but not powerful, for example. And he’s not trying to fill some sort of aristocratic role in society.
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Posted on 10/28/19 at 12:13 pm to GetCocky11
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Texas to be truly southern.
Who does consider Texas part of the South?
Posted on 10/28/19 at 12:23 pm to GetCocky11
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If some old Southern family is still upset about the Civil War, they need to have their head examined.
We’re like some vestigial tail, we exist, and persist, carrying on old traditions, but we have long since lost our purpose. We serve no function in society anymore.
This post was edited on 10/28/19 at 12:28 pm
Posted on 10/28/19 at 12:46 pm to Lima Whiskey
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Too many Yankees now.
Many are not just Yankees. They tried fleeing to Florida first, realized its flaws, and then moved a little North.
So they are Yankees that have been stained by Florida.
Posted on 10/28/19 at 12:49 pm to CivilTiger83
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But then again he is one of those terrible carpetbaggers everyone is complaining about right?
It all depends on the type of people we're talking about. Sure, there are of course people from up north and out west who move to Charleston because they like the old southern charm, and quietly go about enjoying it.
But then you have the other group who move to Charleston (and other southern cities) because of the "charm" or it being a trendy place to live, yet turn around and do everything they can to make it just like the shithole they left behind.
ETA: the unfortunate fact of the matter is that the various cultures that existed in the US and made it such a unique place to live are disappearing. There are plenty of people doing everything they can to preserve these cultures, but it's a losing battle. The end result will just be one homogeneous, sterile, mass-produced pop culture from coast to coast.
This post was edited on 10/28/19 at 12:52 pm
Posted on 10/28/19 at 1:03 pm to Centinel
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The end result will just be one homogeneous, sterile, mass-produced pop culture from coast to coast.
It’s a huge tragedy
Posted on 10/28/19 at 1:11 pm to LSUbase13
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LSUbase13
Howdy neighbor. I'm right across the water from ya here on Johns Island
This post was edited on 10/28/19 at 1:12 pm
Posted on 10/28/19 at 1:24 pm to Centinel
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the unfortunate fact of the matter is that the various cultures that existed in the US and made it such a unique place to live are disappearing.
Any culture that disappears is usually the result of progress and evolution. Some may see that as a bad thing, but thankfully most people do not. Personally, I love that at any point in time in my city, I can find very good Mexican, Italian, Vietnamese, Israeli, Greek, etc. food.
Unless you're talking about ethnic cleansing, which hasn't really been attempted here since the 1800's with Native Americans, which kind of makes this whole complaint pretty ironic.
Posted on 10/28/19 at 1:37 pm to The Spleen
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Any culture that disappears is usually the result of progress and evolution
Can you be more specific? How do you define progress?
Posted on 10/28/19 at 1:55 pm to RedRifle
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What’s the OT view of Charleston, SC?
Bunch of old rich yankees live there now.
Posted on 10/28/19 at 3:14 pm to The Spleen
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Any culture that disappears is usually the result of progress and evolution.
You have a rather distorted view of what progress means if you think the historical cultures of this country being wiped out is a good thing.
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Personally, I love that at any point in time in my city, I can find very good Mexican, Italian, Vietnamese, Israeli, Greek, etc. food.
What does this have to do with anything I said?
This post was edited on 10/28/19 at 3:15 pm
Posted on 10/28/19 at 3:46 pm to Dandy Lion
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New Orleans, in spite of all of it´s shortcomings, is exponentially more sophisticated and complex (and therefore, more interesting).
Good Lord...
Posted on 10/28/19 at 3:50 pm to RedRifle
Charleston is easily the top city in the South. I love to see some reasons on how that isn't true.
Posted on 10/28/19 at 4:09 pm to RedRifle
Grew up there, lotsa great memories as as teen in the late 70's. Love to go visit (which I do 1-2 times / year), but my has it changed. Now there's many more good places to eat and party. Back in my day all the nightspots catered to sailors and airmen, 180 degree difference now.
Many of the little places we used to go on the islands to crab/fish or hang out on the beach are gone or crowded with traffic. The sleepy southern feel of moss-covered live oaks is gone for me. But come on, whenever word gets out about a great place to visit or live we all know what happens next.
Many of the little places we used to go on the islands to crab/fish or hang out on the beach are gone or crowded with traffic. The sleepy southern feel of moss-covered live oaks is gone for me. But come on, whenever word gets out about a great place to visit or live we all know what happens next.
Posted on 10/28/19 at 4:41 pm to chrome_daddy
As a Charleston resident, my thoughts on this line up perfectly with Lewis Grizzard’s on people moving to Atlanta.
Posted on 10/28/19 at 5:44 pm to Lima Whiskey
To expand on Lima Whiskey’s posts in this thread, the attitude of families lamenting the fall of the old south is also common in places other than Charleston, although that is probably the poster child for it.
Richmond, Savannah, Atlanta, etc. all have elements of that reputation. The perceived importance of those key families has been overrun to varying degrees by broader economic and educational progress in those places. The outsiders are both a cause agent and product of those changes.
Richmond, Savannah, Atlanta, etc. all have elements of that reputation. The perceived importance of those key families has been overrun to varying degrees by broader economic and educational progress in those places. The outsiders are both a cause agent and product of those changes.
This post was edited on 10/28/19 at 5:46 pm
Posted on 10/28/19 at 5:47 pm to Lima Whiskey
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The south lost more men, per capita, that Germany did in WW2. The war wrecked the south, and many southern families.
Mine has not recovered in any substantial way for example.
So it’s not necessarily surprising that they hold onto that. Charleston was also very special before the war, and after the war it became a forgotten backwater.
That issue of loss is a constant in Charleston. I have a friend who’s family sold their house south of broad during hard times in the middle of the 20th century.
It’s owned by a New York banker now. He’s there two weekends a year, maybe.
My friend wants to buy it back, but it’s unlikely that he will ever have the money to.
And "Yankees" are the issue
What about your "culture" could someone from the North not be able to mesh with
Only thing I see is that the drama queens still havent gotten over that civil war
Posted on 10/28/19 at 5:52 pm to SDVTiger
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What about your "culture" could someone from the North not be able to mesh with
We’re oil and water.
Posted on 10/28/19 at 6:02 pm to jscrims
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What does a town look like after the Yankees have moved in?
Posted on 10/28/19 at 6:13 pm to Ghost of Colby
Down here they are called half backs.
The realize living in Florida isn’t all vacation all the time so they move halfway back home.
The realize living in Florida isn’t all vacation all the time so they move halfway back home.
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