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re: What’s going down at the Jefferson Gun Outlet?

Posted on 2/21/21 at 8:22 am to
Posted by cypresstiger
The South
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 2/21/21 at 8:22 am to
I've actually been getting listing in the Dakotas randomly on ads for zillow.
—as long as you are prepared for bland food, 6 months of winter, temps sometimes more than -20, LINK
Posted by GardenDistrictTiger
Fort Worth
Member since Sep 2020
2480 posts
Posted on 2/21/21 at 8:22 am to
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So Nola.com confirmed the shooters name as Joshua Jamal Williams



He's exactly who everyone speculated he would be. For the second phase his family will claim that he was killed wrongly. Third phase will be a lawsuit against the gun store and of course the obligatory gofundme account.
Posted by jamboybarry
Member since Feb 2011
33129 posts
Posted on 2/21/21 at 8:24 am to
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I don't think street culture promotes rational thought


It doesn’t. Any perceived slight cannot be dismissed but instead is cause for violence. IMHO the demasculization of young black males due to their lack of fatherly influence breeds this. Painting with broad strokes here
Posted by John88
Member since Sep 2015
6412 posts
Posted on 2/21/21 at 8:32 am to
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The sources said Joshua Jamal Williams carried a pistol with an extended clip into the gun store and indoor shooting range at 6719 Airline Drive about 3 p.m. Saturday when staff told him to unload his weapon. Rules prohibit people from having loaded guns out while away from the range.

LINK

Damn, he definitely unloaded the gun.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
64792 posts
Posted on 2/21/21 at 8:34 am to
Thats not racism. But if it hurts your feelings you probably believe it to be true deep down inside
This post was edited on 2/21/21 at 8:34 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
107826 posts
Posted on 2/21/21 at 8:40 am to
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To be fair, multiple posters originally said the shooter was an older white man.
To be fair, in shootings like this, it usually is a deranged white male

That’s just playing the odds. And when it’s a normal murder, stolen car, beaten woman, etc it’s usually a black male. That’s just playing the odds as well
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
29410 posts
Posted on 2/21/21 at 8:41 am to
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How many rounds does a mag like that hold?


31 or 33. Depends on if he added the extended base plate.

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Either way, an extended mag is for all practical purposes overkill


I would argue that for practical purposes, that's where they are useful.

Bushhogging and eliminating armadillos being the only time I use mine.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 2/21/21 at 8:47 am to
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To be fair, multiple posters originally said the shooter was an older white man.


Yes I know. I’m not faulting them for that. I was just pointing out the hypocrisy of the guy screaming racism.
Posted by MikeBRLA
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2005
17116 posts
Posted on 2/21/21 at 8:56 am to
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People on here often dismiss or laugh off the open racism on this site but here it is again on full display


And there it is...my earlier point is proven. If you state factual crime stats, you will be labeled a racist.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 2/21/21 at 8:57 am to
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People on here often dismiss or laugh off the open racism on this site but here it is again on full display.


The hypersensitivity to “racism” is the only problem here.

And I’ll even go out on a limb and speculate that could have been involved in this case. Did the shooter get offended when asked to unload his weapon? Did he think they were asking him that because he was black? Even though it’s standard operating procedure.

It wouldn’t surprise me
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
64792 posts
Posted on 2/21/21 at 8:59 am to
Thats what my dad theorizes. And he doesn't know anything about keeping it real
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
77559 posts
Posted on 2/21/21 at 9:00 am to
I brought up the dementia. Are you telling me that when you hear of a older person doing something like this that you don't think about dementia? That would go for white or black older folks. If you don't think possibly dementia then you are not thinking.

What remains is still an atypical story. Black or white, walking in loaded and unholstered is odd.
Posted by goinggray
Member since Apr 2020
105 posts
Posted on 2/21/21 at 9:01 am to
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People on here often dismiss or laugh off the open racism on this site but here it is again on full display.
What did he say that was incorrect? I’m all ears.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
73086 posts
Posted on 2/21/21 at 9:09 am to
I'm thinking my last line about understanding white flight may have been what he was referring to because almost everything else was statistical or observational.

As far as flight.... we blame it for destroying cities. People come back they call it gentrification and blame it for destroying cities. When in fact very few people are actually blaming the shitty few actually destroying the cities.

It shouldn't be a white or black issue. It should be a cultural issue. But we aren't grown enough as a society to do that with out the race card.

Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
Member since Feb 2010
27094 posts
Posted on 2/21/21 at 9:19 am to
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That's a 33 round extended.
So not "real practical" for concealed carry. Further, in an environment like a gun store it not likely that you could get off 33 rounds without a rapid and fatal "counter response" Dude was an idiot that made the supreme sacrifice for his idiocy.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
64792 posts
Posted on 2/21/21 at 9:51 am to
I have a few of those 33 rounders for my sub2000 cqb
Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
Member since Feb 2010
27094 posts
Posted on 2/21/21 at 10:05 am to
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A relative of Williams on Saturday wondered what might have provoked the first shots to be fired. The relative doubted Williams, who had gone to the store for target practice while spending time with his brother and some children, would have shown up spoiling for a gun fight at a place known to be a hangout spot for off-duty law enforcement officers and ex-military personnel.

“That would be a death sentence,” said the relative, who declined to give his name.

A woman on social media identifying herself as Williams' mother posted a similar message, saying, "My son did not go into that gun range shooting!"

The message added: "Joshua ... was fired at by ... employees of the gun range and other folks in the gun range! He was murdered! (Rest in peace) my love, you will be forever in my heart!"
The video will tell the tale here. Having been to many a indoor range, I have always found the people there to be the most respectful people in regard to firearms. One would have to be an idiot to walk in there with a loaded gun, challenge the rules and fire off a "warning shot" as I have read.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 2/21/21 at 10:06 am to
Anyone else wondering about the future path for Josh’s kids?
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
64792 posts
Posted on 2/21/21 at 10:06 am to
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One would have to be an idiot


White people education system is at fault
Posted by cbdman
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2015
1264 posts
Posted on 2/21/21 at 10:25 am to
Any update on how this went down? This redditor appears to have worked there and has some specifics... LINK
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