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re: Whatever happened to the planned dredging of University & City Park Lakes?

Posted on 9/24/19 at 7:57 am to
Posted by LSUJML
Central
Member since May 2008
50155 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 7:57 am to
WAFB 4/30/19

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“When the consultant was looking at them and doing the measurements for the quality of water and where exactly the lakes are at, they said they needed to be dredged in order for them not to return to swamp,” said Cheryl Michelet, director of communications for BREC. “There have been some recent new testing done that says exactly what they said would happen is happen, and so we do need to get this taken care of.”


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A few years ago, the Baton Rouge Area Foundation (BRAF) got together and created a master plan to revamp the lakes. It outlined new bike lanes, sidewalks, and making the area more pedestrian friendly. The first project is to take care of the lake. BRAF asked BREC for $5 million to get started. Michelet says BREC is prepared to donate that money, but there needs to be more support from other donors.
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
49237 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 8:00 am to
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I go to the polls every time. I’m trying to get the public awareness of BREC’s fortunes out there. They are sitting in a ton of money just like the library board/system.

As far as BREC not owning the lakes, you might be right. However, city park and the beach area at Acadian/Stanford are both owned and directly next to the Lakes.



You are correct, they are sitting on money. But the reason is because the taxpayers voted to dedicate it to them so it didn’t get lost in the general fund. And while some might not like it, BREC has built new parks as they proposed to the taxpayers which is why the tax was approved. The Library board proposed building new libraries all over the parish which is exactly what they have done. They are now using money to renovate those libraries that were first built, Jones Creek and previously Bluebonnet. While people might not like the downtown library, it was proposed and promised in the original request and is being built because the taxpayers voted for it.

I believe these two dedicated taxes as well as the first Greenlight tax have served the public well in actually doing what they said they would do and taxpayers approved. I believe the new road tax which is dedicated will be the same.

It’s not a perfect system. I support the above 3 taxes because I believe they served the community well. I do not and did not support the CATS tax or the Council on Aging tax and showed that at the polls myself. I got outvoted on both. I believe those 2 taxes are the flip side of dedicated taxes and people need to be vigilant to be sure of transparency.

But it is up to us as taxpayers to understand how this works. Too many people just spout off without actually doing any research as to how all of this works and it is all public record and available online. I don’t want to pay anymore taxes than I have to but I’m aware that if we sit around and complain and are against everything we end up in the dark. Things cost money and someone has to pay for them. That would be you and me.

I enjoy a good discussion and respect both sides of the arguement. What I don’t care for is everyone thinks everyone else is stealing their money and everyone involved is “on the take.” Government on any level is terribly inefficient and never will be perfect. We are all stockholders in it and no way everyone will always agree but by and large it works. There always is someone who’s looking for a scam but that’s just humanity. Government doesn’t have a monopoly on thieves, the private sector does very well in that department as well.

The beach on Stanford was created the last time the lakes were dredged, probably early 80’s if memory serves me and was given to BREC to create a park. A good thing that actually happened with the dredging but people don’t remember that.

Good for you for actually going to the polls as do I. By the numbers most people don’t even bother to vote but they sure will complain if something is passed they don’t like.
Posted by Sayre
Felixville
Member since Nov 2011
5704 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 8:41 am to
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BREC is sitting on millions of dollars that could be used to fix this. They built liberty lagoon. They recently sold over a millions dollars in acres off of Nicholson. They just hoard all of the taxpayer money for their little special interest. They have a whole building with free games that only BREC employees go to because only BREC employees know about it. It’s disgusting.


Known quite a few people that have worked for BREC. They're beyond corrupt and useless, according to what the run of the mill employee says about them.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
68440 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 8:44 am to
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They have a whole building with free games that only BREC employees go to because only BREC employees know about it. It’s disgusting.


Where is it? I’d like to check it out
Posted by Emteein
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
3962 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 8:53 am to
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one of the only pretty things in Baton Rouge.


You obviously haven’t seen the lake recently.
Posted by BobABooey
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2004
15465 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 10:28 am to
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The beach on Stanford was created the last time the lakes were dredged, probably early 80’s if memory serves me and was given to BREC to create a park.

The entire lake was supposed to be dredged one summer in the early 1980’s. They started by the sorority houses and stopped when they approched the area where the TKE house sits because the money ran out. They also used the dredged material to build a peninsula for a park on the north shore of the lake.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
171946 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 10:30 am to
City Park Lake looks like it’s got a film of arse cheese on it.
Posted by PoBoy1
Member since Mar 2014
469 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 10:49 am to
LSU AD Scott Woodward recently commented at a luncheon that addressing the lakes issue is an area LSU Athletics could look to help with. The comment came in response to why LSU Athletics will not simply give a yearly sum of money to LSU (academics). He prefers providing the money for dedicated, planned uses. The lakes was an example he gave.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 10:54 am to
The main lake is what 200 acres? Say it’s dredged 5 feet. That’s 1.6M cubic yards of material. That is no small feat. I’d guess it would cost anywhere from $7.5-15/CY. Do the math. Are there plans for onsite disposal? If it’s hauled off it gets way more pricey.
Posted by SantaFe
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
7196 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 11:04 am to
These lakes were originally swamp land and were dug out during the 1930s by the Civilian Conservation Corps, if IIRC. They are trying to revert to their original state. It would be great to go ahead and dredge these to a 25 foot depth to help with the flooding in da parish when we have a heavy rain. We could sell the dirt to AP so they can have fill to build their house upon.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 11:20 am to
That’s going to be some really expensive dirt.
Posted by Tigeralum2008
Yankees Fan
Member since Apr 2012
17435 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 11:46 am to
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The main lake is what 200 acres? Say it’s dredged 5 feet. That’s 1.6M cubic yards of material. That is no small feat. I’d guess it would cost anywhere from $7.5-15/CY. Do the math. Are there plans for onsite disposal? If it’s hauled off it gets way more pricey.


There's a railroad line that runs near the lake. Just load up the cars and dump them near the coast
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
137030 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 11:48 am to
That project is going to be a logistical nightmare. I don't see how you effectively haul away that much sediment efficiently.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 11:50 am to
Doing another park type deal on the lake makes the most sense if you can plan it out. Not sure where it would go though. Hauling it off is going to be $$$$
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
107513 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 11:50 am to
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That will be a total shitshow if it happens. Please don't ruin or make unsightly one of the only pretty things in Baton Rouge.


dude. the lake is like 6 inches deep throughout. For its health, dredging and improvement is necessary. We are not talking about a naturally occurring lake that shouldn't be touched by man.



Yes, this HAS to be done like every 25-30 years to actually keep these things as "lakes."
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
137030 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 11:51 am to
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The comment came in response to why LSU Athletics will not simply give a yearly sum of money to LSU (academics). He prefers providing the money for dedicated, planned uses. The lakes was an example he gave.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
137030 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 11:55 am to
You'd really have to install a pipeline for sediment disposal. There's no way you could dewater and truck that out in any sort of efficient way.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
60713 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 12:01 pm to
They were dredged in the early 1980's and were very healthy and stocked with Florida Bass that provided very nice fishing for several years.

However, they've become sediment-ridden mud puddles the last several years and no game fish can survive in that environment. Dredging, with an adequate aeration system, is exactly what they need.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 12:18 pm to
Pipeline it to the River
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
137030 posts
Posted on 9/24/19 at 12:18 pm to
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Pipeline it to the River

That's pretty much what you'd have to do
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