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re: What was the darkest period in human history?

Posted on 6/19/18 at 5:55 am to
Posted by celltech1981
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Posted on 6/19/18 at 5:55 am to
Fall of Rome to the around 1600. It's no coincidence that the period called the dark ages was when religion had the most control over government.



I think the argument could be made that since nuclear weapons have been developed we are in the darkest age. With the wrong leaders in power we can go extinct in the course of an afternoon with a few buttons being pushed. We have basically been living with a gun to our head for the last 70 or so hears
This post was edited on 6/19/18 at 6:04 am
Posted by athenslife101
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Posted on 6/19/18 at 6:04 am to
That is a horrible, horrible, horrible historical fallacy.

1.the “fal” of the western Roman Empire was a good thing and the only reason it “fell” is because the various peoples didn’t want to support a wholly dumb empire that was enslaving large swaths of the population.

2. The Middle Ages were generally a more peaceful time than the periods that surrounded them. You have mass genocide happening pretty consistently in the classical era between different groups (mithradates massacring 80k Romans in s surprise attack in one day, etc) and wars were more destructive in the 1500s and 1600s till World War 1.

3. The reformation period of the 1500s was far more repressed than most of the Middle Ages in general. Use of torture ramped up in Europe at this time. A lot of this is due to the religious wars going on but in general, there seemed to be more chaos in general.

I could go on and on and on.
This post was edited on 6/19/18 at 6:06 am
Posted by athenslife101
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Posted on 6/19/18 at 6:07 am to
The “dark ages” are from 450 AD to 1000 AD. Not from 450 to 1600. Also, the 1500s are considered the modern age
This post was edited on 6/19/18 at 6:10 am
Posted by soccerfüt
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Posted on 6/19/18 at 6:09 am to
Pre-Peptides

/thread
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 6/19/18 at 6:09 am to
The period immediately after the Bubonic plague was the biggest economic boom in history and is the direct reason for the formation of the Rennisance so if you could survive it, you might strike out pretty well.
Posted by celltech1981
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 6/19/18 at 6:12 am to
1066, right? I kind of extend it to cover the whole protestant reformation and shite like that. Like you said in one of your other posts torture really got ramped up. Religious persecution was ramped up as well.
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 6/19/18 at 6:16 am to
Known world, Timur was pretty centrally locates in Asia with some forays into Russia and the caucuses.

Also, the 100 years War was pretty benign for the most part. Battles in Western Europe were generally pretty small scale and when they did happen, casualties were generally light.
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
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Posted on 6/19/18 at 6:21 am to
What about Stalin's regimes killing how many? Pol Pot? etc etc etc? Obama?
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 6/19/18 at 6:23 am to
Yeah, I just don’t consider the Middle Ages in general to be comparable to the modern age of 1500 to 1700 in darkest time periods. Sure, lots of bad stuff happened, but no where to the scale that preceded and followed it.

Hell, I remember reading about Italy in the 1450s and it was talking about how the Florentines were shocked when fighting the French because Italian battles generally had very few casualties to make death not very common.

Posted by terd ferguson
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Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 6/19/18 at 6:54 am to
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Nazi Germany


Anyone who thinks this even comes close to darkest shite in history needs to read a book. The Germans weren't even the darkest mfers during WWII.
Posted by TheFonz
Somewhere in Louisiana
Member since Jul 2016
23550 posts
Posted on 6/19/18 at 7:05 am to
quote:

What was the darkest period in human history?


Probably the last night before fire was discovered.
Posted by VolsOut4Harambe
Baw Land
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 6/19/18 at 9:35 am to
quote:

Check out The Nanking Massacre


I knew about it previously but just read up on it in depth.

Holy mfn shite.
Posted by danfraz
San Antonio TX
Member since Apr 2008
24550 posts
Posted on 6/19/18 at 9:43 am to
quote:

What was the darkest period in human history



That year and a half that McDonalds stopped selling the McRib.

I didn't think I'd make it through that dark dark truly tragic time in human history.
Posted by ChineseBandit66
Denver, Colorado
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 6/19/18 at 9:47 am to
quote:

2016 onward until the foreseeable future (Trump no longer president)




-Democrats everywhere



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Posted by J Murdah
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 6/19/18 at 9:48 am to
After the asteriod that killed the dinosaurs hit, the earth was plunged into years of darkness when debris and gas was caught in the atmosphere.
Posted by Tigeralum2008
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Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 6/19/18 at 9:58 am to
quote:

That is a horrible, horrible, horrible historical fallacy.

1.the “fal” of the western Roman Empire was a good thing and the only reason it “fell” is because the various peoples didn’t want to support a wholly dumb empire that was enslaving large swaths of the population.

2. The Middle Ages were generally a more peaceful time than the periods that surrounded them. You have mass genocide happening pretty consistently in the classical era between different groups (mithradates massacring 80k Romans in s surprise attack in one day, etc) and wars were more destructive in the 1500s and 1600s till World War 1.

3. The reformation period of the 1500s was far more repressed than most of the Middle Ages in general. Use of torture ramped up in Europe at this time. A lot of this is due to the religious wars going on but in general, there seemed to be more chaos in general.

I could go on and on and on.


Who says that warfare and genocide are the prerequisites to define "dark"?

The westernized definition of the "fall of Rome" to 1500 featured very little innovation, incredibly bad living conditions for the commoner, and medical treatments based more on religion than science.

WWII killed 60M people, The Black Death killed 50M in the first pandemic and 1/3 of Europe in the second.

Feudalism ruled the world essentially enslaving most of the human population to their landowner nobility.

Life expectancy was 31 years!!!

Of all the historical periods in human history, that timeframe would be the last one I'd choose to live.
This post was edited on 6/19/18 at 10:37 am
Posted by btnetigers
South Louisiana
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 6/19/18 at 9:59 am to
I predict that it hasn't come yet. Once significant life is found on another planet, all shite will break loose.
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
22945 posts
Posted on 6/19/18 at 10:04 am to
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Muslims teamed up with Christians to kill off various competitors.


I saw a documentary about that



Posted by ELVIS U
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 6/19/18 at 10:17 am to
Black plague
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
22277 posts
Posted on 6/19/18 at 10:53 am to
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The dark ages


AKA, When the Church was in Charge.
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