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What was Axis end goal in WWII?

Posted on 11/8/19 at 9:31 am
Posted by Boo Krewe
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Posted on 11/8/19 at 9:31 am
They should've known they were going to lose eventually , and run out of resources kill screw their own people.

Only plus side was British empire losing colonies and some country becoming economy powerhouse
Posted by JackieTreehorn
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Posted on 11/8/19 at 9:34 am to
Galactic domination

Posted by Huey Lewis
BR
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Posted on 11/8/19 at 9:35 am to
I think the end goal was to win and once that was off the table the end goal was to reach a stalemate and once that was off the table they surrendered.
Posted by Shexter
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Posted on 11/8/19 at 9:35 am to
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Japan’s aim was to colonize China

Italy’s aim was to recreate the Roman empire

Germany’s aim was to destroy Russia and carve out a huge land empire in the Eurasian heartland - following Mackinder’s claim that who controls the heartland controls the world.



Posted by Boo Krewe
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Posted on 11/8/19 at 9:38 am to
I watched JoJo rabbit
Posted by Larry_Hotdogs
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Posted on 11/8/19 at 9:39 am to
Posted by Boo Krewe
Member since Apr 2015
9810 posts
Posted on 11/8/19 at 9:39 am to
They wanted star wars?
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 11/8/19 at 9:39 am to
Well, the fact there were so many attempts on Hitler's life during his reign as Furher, the folks in charge of the military surely had to know they couldn't win the war, especially as Russia started their big offensive and the Allies landed on D-Day.

The movie "Valkyrie" made it pretty clear some of the military was willing to go to death's door trying to wrest control of Germany out of Hitler's hands. The bomb that failed to kill Hitler was detonated the day after the Allies landed in Normandy.
Posted by TheFonz
Somewhere in Louisiana
Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 11/8/19 at 9:40 am to
Dude...didn't you watch "The Rocketeer"? The Nazis wanted to create an army of flying soldiers for world domination.

Posted by bad93ex
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 11/8/19 at 9:42 am to
Severely weaken the UK and control the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
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Posted on 11/8/19 at 9:44 am to
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They should've known they were going to lose eventually


You know that Hitler was a certifiably crazy man, right?

The entire war was his vision and he convinced low IQ Mussolini and rabidly expansionistic Japan to go along for the ride.

He truly thought he could "correct" German errors of WWI - deal with Britain on the side and cooperate with the United States.

Japan, for their part kind of screwed him by attacking Pearl Harbor - brought us in probably a solid year, year and a half earlier than Hitler was ready for.

His plan was:

1. Secure France/Low Countries,

2. Knock Russia out

3. Deal diplomatically and economically with the isolated Britain and United States

On paper, it was the old late 19th/early 20th Century Schlieffen Plan on steroids. In reality, any protracted conflict comes down to logistics and Germany has always been shackled by resource chokepoints.
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 11/8/19 at 9:45 am to
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Severely weaken the UK and control the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans.


I'm thinking Japan had plans for the Pacific.
Posted by ZappBrannigan
Member since Jun 2015
7692 posts
Posted on 11/8/19 at 9:48 am to
Hitler was a text book case of everything works until it doesn't.

France taking too long and too much material to conquer. The Russian invasion getting put off by 6 weeks all added to a bad situation. For Germany and Japan the wars were about resources, which they thankfully never got to exploit. For Italy, Mussolini needed a show to stay in power and was trying to not be absorbed and overshadowed completely by Germany.
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 11/8/19 at 9:48 am to
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Japan’s aim was to colonize China Italy’s aim was to recreate the Roman empire Germany’s aim was to destroy Russia and carve out a huge land empire in the Eurasian heartland - following Mackinder’s claim that who controls the heartland controls the world


This is the general impression I’ve always had.

Germany wanted control from France to Russia, Italy wanted to control the Mediterranean, and Japan wanted China.

They could then isolate UK and USA and have 3 allied superpowers against us.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 11/8/19 at 9:52 am to
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The movie "Valkyrie" made it pretty clear some of the military was willing to go to death's door trying to wrest control of Germany out of Hitler's hands.


Not only the military but also Germany's political elite who were marginalized by the rise of the Nazi Party.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 11/8/19 at 9:54 am to
To rule the world?
Posted by DustyDinkleman
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Posted on 11/8/19 at 9:54 am to
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 11/8/19 at 9:56 am to
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France taking too long and too much material to conquer.


Didn’t it take less than 2 months?
This post was edited on 11/8/19 at 9:56 am
Posted by Space Cadet
Member since Sep 2019
446 posts
Posted on 11/8/19 at 9:56 am to
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To rule the world?



Did anyone ever do this? What do you do once you're ruling the world, just make weird laws and shite? It seems like it's more about the taking over the world and less about ruling it, ya know? Like the real world domination was the friends we made along the way.
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 11/8/19 at 9:57 am to
They actually might have forced an armistice if they had broken the Russians at Stalingrad or not made so many blunders on the eastern front.

That and if they had conquered Britain, the Americans wouldn’t have had a launching point.



Everybody wants to rule the world
This post was edited on 11/8/19 at 10:07 am
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