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Larry_Hotdogs
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re: What was Axis end goal in WWII?
Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis The Wise? I thought not. It’s not a story the Jedi would tell you. It’s a Sith legend. Darth Plagueis was a Dark Lord of the Sith, so powerful and so wise he could use the Force to influence the midichlorians to create life. He had such a knowledge of the dark side that he could even keep the ones he cared about from dying. The dark side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural. He became so powerful the only thing he was afraid of was losing his power, which eventually, of course, he did. Unfortunately, he taught his apprentice everything he knew, then his apprentice killed him in his sleep. Ironic. He could save others from death, but not himself.


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ZappBrannigan
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re: What was Axis end goal in WWII?
It's fast yes. But it cost a lot


Germany:
27,074 dead[e]
111,034 wounded
18,384 missing[4][5][6]
1,129 aircrew killed[7]
(c. 27,000 dead)
1,236 aircraft lost[4][8]
795–822[9] tanks destroyed[f]
157,621 total casualties

And Germany had no way to replace those on a speedy basis.

Of course you'll look on the other side of the equation.

360,000 dead or wounded,
1,900,000 captured
2,233 aircraft lost[14]
1,749 French tanks destroyed[h]
689 British tanks lost[

And go well shit, that doesn't look too bad.

But for conquering France, they lost a quarter of aircraft committed. A third of their tanks. And no way to quickly make those losses good.

Not to mention losing well trained and disciplined men to run machines they could produce.

Then immediately committing to the Battle of Britain.

And while they took a large amount of prisoners, close to 2 million they only killed or wounded 2 allies to every 1ish German. Leaving about 1 million free french to fight another day.

The logistics was never there to win.



TigerstuckinMS
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re: What was Axis end goal in WWII?
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Didn’t it take less than 2 months?

It's France. It shouldn't take 2 months for them to make and wave a white flag.

(Yes, I understand France has a long and generally successful war history you joyless fun sponges.)


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gumbo2176
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re: What was Axis end goal in WWII?
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Hitler was a text book case of everything works until it doesn't.


I like that statement. As things started unraveling between the Russians mounting their offensive driving the Germans out of Russia and putting them on the defensive and the Allies landing in Normandy on D-Day, things were going pretty good for Germany-----------then the shit-storm came their way and they had no answers.

I wonder just how many orders Hitler gave to his Generals to hold positions at all costs. I know from historical records he did this many times in Russia alone. That had to be totally demoralizing to the Generals who watched the troops under their command killed or captured for what amounted to sheer folly.


TigerstuckinMS
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re: What was Axis end goal in WWII?
Hitler: Insane or evil? You can't pick both. That's too easy.


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re: What was Axis end goal in WWII?
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Hitler: Insane or evil? You can't pick both. That's too easy.


Evil can't be denied. He instituted policies that were instrumental in trying to wipe an entire set of people off the face of the Earth in the Jews. Not to mention the gays, physically and mentally challenged people, gypsies, etc.

I don't think for one second he was insane, just one of the biggest megalomaniacs history has ever seen.


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re: What was Axis end goal in WWII?

Universal health care and open borders.


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ZappBrannigan
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re: What was Axis end goal in WWII?
Evil and Drug addled.


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tiganation337
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re: What was Axis end goal in WWII?
worth it?


Boo Krewe
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re: What was Axis end goal in WWII?
What was Japan's issue. Also for the record the llies


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CitizenK
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re: What was Axis end goal in WWII?
Germany was in desperate need of Russia's oil. IMO, it wanted England and all of Europe which includes Russia up the Urals.

It could have slowly squeezed the U.S. financially to at least a stalemate then a treaty. Italy would have eventually become a vasal state of Germany.


deltaland
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They should've known they were going to lose eventually , and run out of resources kill screw their own people.


They actually got pretty damn close to winning. Had Germany not declared war on the US after Pearl Harbor and left Japan out to dry then they defeat Britain in the blitzkrieg and turn all resources toward Russia and conquer the oil fields in the caucuses and have plenty of resources to maintain the war machine.

But the goals were to have a German centralized Europe with Germany and its satellite conquered nations as a world power giving vast resources and land to the German people and to eliminate or enslave Jews, Slavs, and other minorities from Europe. Also they wanted to a counter balance to communist USSR to stop communism. Hitler despised communists


saintsfan92612
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re: What was Axis end goal in WWII?
Japan needed rubber and oil and the US was blocking their expansion outside of China and Manchuria.


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Boo Krewe
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re: What was Axis end goal in WWII?
So Germany screwed Japan ?


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re: What was Axis end goal in WWII?
See - "Man in the High Castle"


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LCA131
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re: What was Axis end goal in WWII?
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What was Axis end goal in WWII


They were desperate in their search of a woman willing to sleep with you... They, like you, failed miserably.


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TigerstuckinMS
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re: What was Axis end goal in WWII?
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What was Japan's issue. Also for the record the llies

I always thought that Japan was largely fueled by their view that their WWI allies were not treating them fairly. Being small enough to be safely snubbed by their WWI allies paired with strong nationalism and a lack of resources for growth (namely rubber, oil, and steel) on the Japanese mainland were all strong drivers to imperial expansion.

As for the attack on Pearl Harbor, the Japanese knew that the only real immediate threat to their expansion across the Pacific was the U.S. Navy. You pair the threat the Navy represented to their ambitions with the extremely strained relations between the U.S. and Japan over the preceding decades, and the bombing of Pearl Harbor is a pretty obvious outcome, in hindsight.

There was no margin for error by the Japanese, though. If the attack failed to completely neutralize the Navy, the U.S. would be able to slow the Japanese advances long enough to rebuild the Navy and crush Japan. Yamamoto's assessment (if not apocryphal) was spot on.
This post was edited on 11/8 at 11:56 am


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ZappBrannigan
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re: What was Axis end goal in WWII?
A unified Axis is mostly myth.
It just became shorthand for writing about the wars.

The Pacific War was was already approaching a decade old by the time Germany invaded Poland.

And besides a little back and forth in "intelligence gathering" not much communication happened between them.

Off the top of my head I can recall one German sub operating in the Pacific for a couple months for the Japanese cause.

Hitler's greatest frustration was Japan's refusal to meaningfully cut the Pacific supply route to Russia.


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Cocotheape
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re: What was Axis end goal in WWII?
Neither Germany nor Japan had a realistic shot at winning. They both then made additional mistakes that expedited their demise.

Germany had a better chance of “winning” but reality was the Russians were underestimated as always. Germany made mistakes but the red army was an overwhelming wave of men and machine

Japan had no chance at winning, their only chance was basically making everything so tough for the US that we just decided not to bother anymore. The fact the US was attacked by Japan directly at Pearl Harbor and the US still committed to defeating Germany first tells me all I need to know about how big a threat Japan actually was.


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