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Philzilla2k
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re: What was Axis end goal in WWII?
Read Hitler’s last will and political testament


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Rep520
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re: What was Axis end goal in WWII?
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But for conquering France, they lost a quarter of aircraft committed. A third of their tanks. And no way to quickly make those losses good. 

Not to mention losing well trained and disciplined men to run machines they could produce. 

Then immediately committing to the Battle of Britain. 


Hitler didn't understand use of resources and logistics until it was too late. Germany wasn't ready for a cross channel invasion of Britain and had nowhere near the navy it needed to pressure Britain's navy.

Britain understood logistics and resources and showed it by bailing at Dunkirk. They turned it into a situation where Germany had to come at them with their weaker military assets in air and navy.

The Battle of Britain was Hitler trying to force Britain to surrender or sign a treaty. When it didn't work, it gutted the Luftwaffe. Germany was lacking in natural resources to replenish either air force or navy and Britain could hold out indefinitely with their control of the sea.

So Hitler had to make a desperation move to acquire resources by invading Russia. The end goal was always quick victory, because neither Germany or Japan had the resources or infrastructure to win a prolonged war unless the enemy was ready to talk treaty.


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The entire war was his vision and he convinced low IQ Mussolini and rabidly expansionistic Japan to go along for the ride.


Mussolini wasn't low IQ and Japan had designs on Pacific expansion well before Hitler's election as Chancellor. Japan also operated largely independent of the other European Axis powers. Their alliance with Germany was borne out of largely having the same adversaries and potential adversaries.

It's also debatable whether Hitler was "certifiably crazy", but I'll leave that one alone lest I get accused of defending the Nazis. And it will probably devolve into an argument over semantics anyway.

Was Napoleon certifiably crazy? Was Genghis Khan? Caesar? Alexander? "Great" men are rarely good men.


Jim Rockford
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Germany wanted control from France to Russia,


Strategically, they wanted to dominate Eurasia. Philosophically, they believed that conflict kept a civilization from stagnating. They envisioned a mulitigeneration, perhaps endless, war along the Slavic frontier, not unlike in the American West. (Hitler was an avid reader of Western novels as a boy). If that ever ended, they would expand elsewhere. Hypothetically, they wanted to rule the world, but that was in the very distant future, hence the "Thousand Year Reich."


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re: What was Axis end goal in WWII?
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Britain understood logistics and resources and showed it by bailing at Dunkirk. They turned it into a situation where Germany had to come at them with their weaker military assets in air and navy.

The Battle of Britain was Hitler trying to force Britain to surrender or sign a treaty. When it didn't work, it gutted the Luftwaffe. Germany was lacking in natural resources to replenish either air force or navy and Britain could hold out indefinitely with their control of the sea.


Not at all disagreeing with this, but it's perplexing why the Germans allowed the British to evacuate from Dunkirk at all.

And considering their need for resources, it's also strange that the Germans decided to make a three-pronged invasion of the Soviet Union instead of focusing most of their manpower on invading the resource-rich areas in the Caucasus before focusing on Moscow, Stalingrad, et al.

Overconfidence, incompetence, whatever it was, those were some colossal miscalculations.


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ChileanChopperForce
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re: What was Axis end goal in WWII?
To stop and defeat communism once and for all. To defeat international globalists and their fiat currency schemes.

Sadly, we helped the wrong side and now we live under the rule of international globalists who inflate away our currency and who care more about the borders of countries thousands of miles away than our own.

Pravda simply picked up and moved from the Kremlin to NYC and took over our MSM.

Look at ABC/CBS defending pedophiles by spiking the Epstein story, then firing the woman who leaked their coverup.

Thank God for Trump. He's the first real pushback I've seen as a Gen-Xer in my entire life and most of the swamp hates him and the people who voted for him.

The Swamp is much more like the communists than the Nazis or Imperial Japanese. In fact, we have actual descendants of The Bolsheviks, of Holodomor fame, working in our government and in academia.


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re: What was Axis end goal in WWII?
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To stop and defeat communism once and for all. To defeat international globalists and their fiat currency schemes.

Sadly, we helped the wrong side and now we live under the rule of international globalists who inflate away our currency and who care more about the borders of countries thousands of miles away than our own.

Pravda simply picked up and moved from the Kremlin to NYC and took over our MSM.

Look at ABC/CBS defending pedophiles by spiking the Epstein story, then firing the woman who leaked their coverup.

Thank God for Trump. He's the first real pushback I've seen as a Gen-Xer in my entire life and most of the swamp hates him and the people who voted for him.

The Swamp is much more like the communists than the Nazis or Imperial Japanese. In fact, we have actual descendants of The Bolsheviks, of Holodomor fame, working in our government and in academia.

this. fricking. board


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Manzielathon
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re: What was Axis end goal in WWII?
Lmao you are literally a Nazi


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re: What was Axis end goal in WWII?
Turn Germany into the EU, control France and England, damn ,.. I think they succeeded
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ZappBrannigan
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re: What was Axis end goal in WWII?
All the ways to burn an alter and use it in an alter's question about WWII thread.


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re: What was Axis end goal in WWII?
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Sadly, we helped the wrong side




BuckyCheese
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re: What was Axis end goal in WWII?
Germany and Japan really were not much for allies. If they had been Japan could have been a huge help to Germany by attacking the Russians in the Far East, holding those armies in place that instead were sent to Moscow to hold then push back the Nazis.

Stalin knew Japan would not attack due to an intelligence asset in Tokyo, Robert Sorge, so gutted his defenses in the east to save Moscow.


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Germany and Japan really were not much for allies. If they had been Japan could have been a huge help to Germany by attacking the Russians in the Far East, holding those armies in place that instead were sent to Moscow to hold then push back the Nazis. Stalin knew Japan would not attack due to an intelligence asset in Tokyo, Robert Sorge, so gutted his defenses in the east to save Moscow.


Japan got their arse kicked in a short, but very bloody border conflict with Russia in 1939, which caused them to turn their attention to Southeast Asia and the Pacific islands. They didn't want any part of Russia.


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re: What was Axis end goal in WWII?
Where was Mexico , Spain , thailand on all of this? Is this a real world war


Jim Rockford
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re: What was Axis end goal in WWII?
Mexico came in late on the American side. Spain was neutral but leaning toward Germany most of the war. Thailand was conquered by Japan.


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BuckyCheese
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Japan got their arse kicked in a short, but very bloody border conflict with Russia in 1939, which caused them to turn their attention to Southeast Asia and the Pacific islands. They didn't want any part of Russia.


I know that, however with the intelligence out of Tokyo they knew they could leave their rear essentially uncovered.


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SoFla Tideroller
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re: What was Axis end goal in WWII?
Diversions like North Africa and the Balkans sapped off men, resources and time that Germany could not afford to squander.


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yatesdog38
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re: What was Axis end goal in WWII?
The end goal was Space force


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KiwiHead
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re: What was Axis end goal in WWII?
Germany made a run for the Caucus Mts to get to Baku where the oil was as well as Rommel and his push into Egypt for control of the Suez and the oil routes. The Germans were racing into Greece to establish a large logistical base before El Alamein all in hopes of occupying


Ryan3232
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re: What was Axis end goal in WWII?
Idk but Japan totally fricked up by bombing Pearl Harbor. I just dont see how they thought that would cripple us to the point of not being able to get them back. Also, they didnt bomb any of our aircraft carriers.

It was still a horrible day in our history, but in the grand scheme of things, it was a frick UP!


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