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re: What St George is REALLY about

Posted on 3/5/18 at 2:38 pm to
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34216 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 2:38 pm to
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There are still bad schools in places like Cypress and Katy, but there are far more good and very good ones. If they bused the kids from the shite schools in Cypress and sent kids from the good schools to the ones in shite areas, I imagine we'd get a result like BR very quickly


With St. George and ISD you may have property tax levels comparable to Houston. But the residents will still be paying state income tax. Still have to wonder if the schools will be as good as Cypress and Katy schools like you mentioned
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
Member since Mar 2016
13137 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 2:40 pm to
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St George is where the lower middle class live. The houses are almost all below $200k.


Pretty sure you can't find a single home in Kensington Estates, the U-Club, CCL, Highland Lakes, Highland Crossing and Mallard Lakes for 200k or under.
Posted by Quinn225
Member since May 2017
408 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 2:54 pm to
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Pretty sure you can't find a single home in Kensington Estates, the U-Club, CCL, Highland Lakes, Highland Crossing and Mallard Lakes for 200k or under.



Check out St George on Redfin. Set max price to $225k. Enjoy! Bargain prices for 1990's architecture with septic tanks!
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
43082 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 3:21 pm to
Minnow I have a question, in the Houston area do sales tax receipts go to schools as they do here in EBR?
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34216 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 3:34 pm to
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Minnow I have a question, in the Houston area do sales tax receipts go to schools as they do here in EBR?


I don't think so, its mainly property taxes. Property taxes are high but no state income tax and most consider that a wash. I say that because our property taxes are close to 5K and my parents pay around 1K for retirees. For us we beneft as we live modestly for income and live in a low property tax percentage area.

But the schools are fantastic and they keep building new all the time. They invest heavily in education. Two of my neighbors are teachers and said starting salary is 54K (I think that was the number). Tomball built new schools five years ago and already announced doing 224M in rennovations and building another. This happens all over though.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
43082 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 3:44 pm to
I asked because in EBR we are currently paying 2% in sales taxes for schools. We pay more to schools than just property taxes so that can explain some of the disparity, right?

Also the state pays local school boards as part of our state constitution. That explains some more of the disparity.

I'm not saying we pay more taxes for schools, it's just that our public schools are funded by the state and by local sales tax and property taxes.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
30751 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 3:51 pm to
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St George is where the lower middle class live. The houses are almost all below $200k other than CCL


You retarded or something baw?
Did they not say that 2/3's of the property taxes in EBR come from St. George proposed area. You think that's lower middle class providing that?
There are a shite load of neighborhoods in the proposed area that you will not find a home under $300k in them.
Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
10005 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 5:06 pm to
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Instead, we should trust people like Sharon Weston Broom and Gary Chambers.


That's EXACTLY what you are telling people to do when you say you're only trying to form a new city because you were told that you needed to in order to create a school district.

Reality is people like Sharon Weston Broom who said that will NEVER support a new school district. Never. If you believe that then you're a fool. A more likely scenario is that certain people just want a fiefdom and the school district is secondary to that.

The reason I believe the ISD is only a secondary motive is because they should use incorporation as a negotiation tactic. The city will hurt Baton Rouge more than the school district will. The obvious thing to do there is to let everyone know that you'll drop the effort to create a new city as soon as you get a new school district.

Once you incorporate you lose that bargaining chip and it's scorched Earth. EBR residents will never vote for the new school district once you hurt their city's finances.

Keep in mind that Federal oversight and circumstances of Baker, Zachary, and Central were completely different and are irrelevant to what's going on today. Those school districts had to deal with complying with desegregation standards that no longer exist and they were not cash cows for the city-parish.

I say all this not as someone who is for or against incorporation or a new ISD. I do not live in SG or BR. Just an outside observer with a little experience.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
61594 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 5:14 pm to
Regardless of your thoughts on st George, you have to admit the map is pretty funny
Posted by TigerAlum1982
Member since Sep 2011
1577 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 5:24 pm to
My subdivision is in it and houses are selling right now from about $350,000 -$400,000. We didn't sign petition last time, but plan to sign it this time.
This post was edited on 3/5/18 at 5:25 pm
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 5:24 pm to
St George might kill Krista

She honestly thinks she pays more living in an apartment than the homeowners of BR


Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
30767 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 5:27 pm to
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Regardless of your thoughts on st George, you have to admit the map is pretty funny


I noticed the first map(one that lost), had more area, the newer one has less. Some Colored people move into those areas since last petition???
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
163112 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 5:33 pm to
Oh krista....
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53837 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 5:35 pm to
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I noticed the first map(one that lost), had more area, the newer one has less. Some Colored people move into those areas since last petition???

They omitted areas where there wasn't heavy support last time.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53837 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 5:36 pm to
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Residents don't pay property taxes in rentals

Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
30767 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 5:36 pm to
Ah, so leave those who don't want in, out?

Just seemed weird they just cut places off.
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
30767 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 5:37 pm to
I said earlier in this thread, it's amazing that people listen to and believe her.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53837 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 5:37 pm to
It actually is kind of funny. They cut out a few of the shitty areas in SBR
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 5:41 pm to
What it must feel like to make a living just lying and lying on social media. What it must feel like to just completely persuade one audience while you block the other audience from even being able to be friends with you. It's a damn shame that we have so many stupid people who will follow anyone just because that person seems to have a platform.
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
30767 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 5:47 pm to
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It actually is kind of funny. They cut out a few of the shitty areas in SBR


That's why i asked, there was a part of a city in Illanoy, across from River that wanted to split and have a new City.

Years later, when they finally had the petition, people noticed the 2 small areas where the apartments had gone downhill, and become shitty, were stripped off their map.

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