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re: What is your opinion on the gentrification of N.O.?
Posted on 6/19/15 at 9:21 am to AbitaFan08
Posted on 6/19/15 at 9:21 am to AbitaFan08
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What I've seen happen in other places is that it is the 20-somethings - i.e. "young professionals" - that really drive this process. They buy into the cheaper places in the city because they want to be "in the city" but can't afford a whole lot. As more and more young professionals flock to an area, newer bars, restaurants, and coffee places open up there because that tends to be their target demographic. Once those businesses are established, people with money want to be near them, and that's what causes the rise in real estate prices.
I enjoy visiting to the new places, I dont want to live near them. I enjoy that the young professionals cannot afford to live near me. Stay off my lawn.
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Posted on 6/19/15 at 9:22 am to H.M. Murdock
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I enjoy that the young professionals cannot afford to live near me. Stay off my lawn.
Trust me, I don't want to be anywhere near your lawn.
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I enjoy visiting to the new places, I dont want to live near them.
Funny, that's my exact sentiment about New Orleans.
This post was edited on 6/19/15 at 9:25 am
Posted on 6/19/15 at 9:23 am to AbitaFan08
He said it was a legitimate counter argument.
Which it's not.
It's an argument. But not a good or legitimate one.
Which it's not.
It's an argument. But not a good or legitimate one.
Posted on 6/19/15 at 9:24 am to AbitaFan08
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Trust me, I don't want to be anywhere near your lawn.
Thanks, but if you were a neighbor you're more than welcome to swing by for a drink.
Posted on 6/19/15 at 9:25 am to H.M. Murdock
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Thanks, but if you were a neighbor you're more than welcome to swing by for a drink.
I've still got a car, so as long as you're offering, make mine a double.
Posted on 6/19/15 at 9:35 am to zacata88
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I don't want New Orleans to be a mini-Austin, or a mini-Portland, or a mini-Manhattan
I do. Millenials and such have the perception that those cities are "cool", for lack of a better term. I'd rather that than be a backwater compared to Houston or Atlanta. I want New Orleans to join the 21st century.
Posted on 6/19/15 at 9:35 am to AbitaFan08
A few guys in the barbershop was having this conversation yesterday. All of them worked, some had multiple jobs, and they were worried that they wouldn't be able to afford a home in the neighborhood they grew up in. These aren't thugs or lazy people, but just people who can't afford the cost of 200k plus home in NOLA.
There are two sides to every story, and although redevelopment is needed in NOLA, a lot of hard working people will see there options for decent housing diminished.
There are two sides to every story, and although redevelopment is needed in NOLA, a lot of hard working people will see there options for decent housing diminished.
Posted on 6/19/15 at 9:39 am to BIGDAB
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options for decent housing diminished
Most of the areas I've noticed being renovated aren't what I would consider "decent housing".. Renovating theses houses actually should increase "options for decent housing" as people are leaving decent housing behind to move to these "hip" areas. Sorry they are getting priced out of their neighborhood but that is just how America works. Their neighborhood went through a decline for so long that it reached a point where developers believed they could make a profit by purchasing and renovating the properties. The area has reached the fourth stage in the life of real estate (renovation).
This post was edited on 6/19/15 at 9:40 am
Posted on 6/19/15 at 9:50 am to BIGDAB
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A few guys in the barbershop was having this conversation yesterday. All of them worked, some had multiple jobs, and they were worried that they wouldn't be able to afford a home in the neighborhood they grew up in. These aren't thugs or lazy people, but just people who can't afford the cost of 200k plus home in NOLA.
which is unfortunate.... but if the alternative is staying close to where they grew up with cheap rent but being terribly unsafe and in broken down houses....
not being able to afford good housing is always going to have a sad story attached to it. hopefully they branch out and find a neighborhood that is good for them.
Posted on 6/19/15 at 10:00 am to NoSaint
Most of these guys live in gentilly, some of the houses are modest, and below OT standards, but not what I would consider a dump or deplorable conditions. what used to cost between 130 to 160 is now hovering around the175 to 200k and prices are not going down.
Posted on 6/19/15 at 10:02 am to Breesus
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It's an argument. But not a good or legitimate one.
I don't know what to tell you then.
I'm sure many people are of the opinion that it is a good and legitimate point. If you're okay displacing the lower incomes to the perimeter, fine, I'm not going to argue that. Just make sure they have a way to get back in to go to work.
If you don't want to invest in a way for them to get back in for work, find a way to improve neighborhoods without displacement.
You can't have your cake and eat it too.
Posted on 6/19/15 at 10:04 am to 504ByrdGang
I'm a millennial, bought a double uptown in 2012 that needed a huge renovation. The older couple who had lived there for 20+ years let it go to shite so it needed basically everything but I was up for it. They bought a house with a pool out in Harvey for what I paid for their dilapidated property, which is now renovated and no longer a blight to the neighborhood. I think everybody wins in that situation and this is what's happening demographically through a lot of the city.
ETA: I'm from Louisiana, not an outsider so I knew the city and what was going on when I bought mine
ETA: I'm from Louisiana, not an outsider so I knew the city and what was going on when I bought mine
This post was edited on 6/19/15 at 10:06 am
Posted on 6/19/15 at 10:06 am to Aubie Spr96
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I have no agenda in this conversation other than to point out that its possible for people other than yourself to actually know something about the topic. I don't have to live in NO to understand the gentrification of that city no more than I have to live in Afghanistan to understand its a shithole. I can read. You should try it.
For real. I even agree with his stance, but holy dickhead demeanor. Talk about complete lack of ability to politely discuss/debate.
This post was edited on 6/19/15 at 10:10 am
Posted on 6/19/15 at 10:09 am to BIGDAB
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Most of these guys live in gentilly,
No offense or anything, but I live in Gentilly (well, Vista Park), and the sooner that gets more and more gentrified, the better.
Posted on 6/19/15 at 10:10 am to LouisianaLady
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For fricking real. I even agree with his stance, but holy dickhead demeanor. Talk about complete lack of ability to politely discuss/debate.
Came across as a pretty standard, "you're not from New Orleans and New Orleans is different from anywhere in the world so you'll never get it" mentality that a lot (not all, but a lot) of New Orleans people have.
Posted on 6/19/15 at 10:10 am to zacata88
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I don't want New Orleans to be a mini-Austin, or a mini-Portland, or a mini-Manhattan
Yeah, I don't want my city to be like rich, educated, booming cities. That would be terrible.
frick that, bring on the Hipsters. Bring on Portland. Please.
Posted on 6/19/15 at 10:11 am to Fun Bunch
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Yeah, I don't want my city to be like rich, educated, booming cities. That would be terrible.
frick that, bring on the Hipsters. Bring on Portland. Please.
Bingo.Posted on 6/19/15 at 10:14 am to AbitaFan08
Is Breesus still getting his arse handed to him in this thread?
Posted on 6/19/15 at 10:15 am to Fun Bunch
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Fun Bunch
100% agree with you. I never really understood the hate for "hipsters". How they dress or how pretentious they are in their own lives really shouldn't affect your life at all. Most specific businesses I can think of with a hipster label are generally pretty awesome. Craft cocktail bars/craft beer bars.. "hip" restaurants with good food.. locally-owned clothing stores.. art.. coffee..
Sure, they're often not the cheapest places in the world and can seem a bit kitschy to some people, but they beat the hell out of run-down nothingness or stale strip malls/chain businesses.
Posted on 6/19/15 at 10:15 am to Rohan2Reed
Nah he disappeared for a while and people moved on.
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