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re: What is your opinion on the gentrification of N.O.?

Posted on 6/19/15 at 10:17 am to
Posted by wizziko
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Posted on 6/19/15 at 10:17 am to
picture speaks for itself

Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted on 6/19/15 at 10:18 am to
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100% agree with you. I never really understood the hate for "hipsters". How they dress or how pretentious they are in their own lives really shouldn't affect your life at all. Most specific businesses I can think of with a hipster label are generally pretty awesome. Craft cocktail bars/craft beer bars.. "hip" restaurants with good food.. locally-owned clothing stores.. art.. coffee..

Sure, they're often not the cheapest places in the world and can seem a bit kitschy to some people, but they beat the hell out of run-down nothingness or stale strip malls/chain businesses.


100% agree.
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 6/19/15 at 10:20 am to
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they move into poverty stricken areas because they think it's trendy and cool and then they fight like hell to keep them poor and shitty because working 4 hours twice a week at a boutique coffee shop doesn't pay the bills
What are you talking about? The hipsters are the ones that buy into the shitty neighborhood when the prices are at dirt levels. When the prices go up they are sitting on about 150-300k in equity. The hipsters that gentrified East Nashville are 28-32 year olds that have over 200k built in equity already
Posted by AbitaFan08
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Posted on 6/19/15 at 10:25 am to
Would you rather drive around and see this



or this?

Posted by AbitaFan08
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Posted on 6/19/15 at 10:28 am to
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What are you talking about? The hipsters are the ones that buy into the shitty neighborhood when the prices are at dirt levels. When the prices go up they are sitting on about 150-300k in equity. The hipsters that gentrified East Nashville are 28-32 year olds that have over 200k built in equity already


Exactly. They buy there because it's cheap and in the city. Then comes the new restaurants, craft breweries, you know...all that terrible hipster crap, then the real estate prices go way up.
This post was edited on 6/19/15 at 10:31 am
Posted by BIGDAB
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Posted on 6/19/15 at 10:30 am to
Well that's frame of reference for you.
Posted by KindaRaw
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Posted on 6/19/15 at 10:30 am to
Of course the first thing that came to my mind when I read this thread was Alvin Gentry
Posted by go_tigres
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Posted on 6/19/15 at 10:33 am to
There are different levels of gentrification. Are we looking at Manhattan or Brooklyn as an example? Then yea, I can see an issue. As of now, we have a massive shite hole where even millions wouldn't put us an inch closer to that extreme. People just love to bitch, that's what it boils down to.
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 6/19/15 at 10:40 am to
Who let you out the kitchen?
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Posted on 6/19/15 at 10:43 am to
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Breesus still getting his arse handed to him in this thread?


Nah I've been converted.

I agree with he general sentiment in this thread. In fact I hope they build more section 8 housing and projects near the quarter and in metairie. Any time there is high property value in a neighborhood it really hurts some people who can't afford rent there anymore. It's a bullshite system. Who wants to reward people for working hard and improving parts of the city.those people are the scum of the earth.

I also hope the government passes a law in lousiana that forces all assessments of property to not be over $10,000 so everyone regardless of life status can afford to live wherever they want.

frick improving the city or raising up the downtrodden neighborhoods I've seen blighted and run down my whole life.we should be focusing on making sure everyone can pick and choose where they want to live regardless of price or consequences.
This post was edited on 6/19/15 at 10:48 am
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 6/19/15 at 10:47 am to
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The hipsters are the ones that buy into the shitty neighborhood when the prices are at dirt levels.


They don't buy shite. They rent .and once they start renting people start buying the houses around them and driving up the rent for their friends. But the majority of them don't buy. You can't buy a house when your yearly income comes from hanging out at the park and occasionally riding a petty cab.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 6/19/15 at 10:53 am to
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They don't buy shite. They rent.


This is what I've seen from friends and acquaintances that has moved into some of these areas. I know that's just a personal anecdote, so I'm sure it's not the only thing happening.
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 6/19/15 at 10:57 am to
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They don't buy shite. They rent
How the hell do they gentrify it then? Gentrifying is them buying the houses and taking away the eyesore and putting in a nice house. If they are simply coming in and renting shitty houses and keeping them shitty houses, nothing is being gentrified. Sure some will rent, but the whole process is them buying the house for nothing, fixing them up, thus raising the property value around them and eventually forcing out whatever low rent houses are left

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Gentrification is the buying and renovation of houses and stores in deteriorated urban neighborhoods by wealthier individuals, which in effect improves property values but also can displace low-income families and small businesses
You are getting hipsters confused with gutter punks. Hipsters have good income streams and they are the ones buying and fixing up the neighborhood
This post was edited on 6/19/15 at 11:00 am
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 6/19/15 at 11:04 am to
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How the hell do they gentrify it then?


They dont.

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If they are simply coming in and renting shitty houses and keeping them shitty houses, nothing is being gentrified


Have you missed the gentrification protests?

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Hipsters have good income streams and they are the ones buying and fixing up the neighborhood


Working for 45 minutes a day on a rotation schedule with 30 other people at an obscure record store is not a good income stream.
This post was edited on 6/19/15 at 11:07 am
Posted by BigPerm30
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Posted on 6/19/15 at 11:05 am to
I thought this was an Alvin Gentry thread.



I'm out
Posted by Solo
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Posted on 6/19/15 at 11:06 am to
All for gentrification. Need more tax dollars to fix the damn streets. Thx.
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 6/19/15 at 11:07 am to
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Working for 45 minted a day on a rotation schedule with 30 other people at an obscure record store is not a good income stream.
So are you really denying that the hipsters are the ones that buy and renovate homes that start the gentrification process?
Posted by AbitaFan08
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Posted on 6/19/15 at 11:07 am to
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Working for 45 minted a day on a rotation schedule with 30 other people at an obscure record store is not a good income stream.


You have a very warped and limited understanding of hipsters. And I'm about as far from a hipster as one can get.

And aside from that, I've seen that the gentrification process is fueled by young professionals more than hipsters.
This post was edited on 6/19/15 at 11:09 am
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 6/19/15 at 11:08 am to
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You have a very warped and limited understanding of hipsters. And I'm about as far from a hipster as one can get.
He has been ignorant on quite a few things in here
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 6/19/15 at 11:08 am to
not to mention they waste it keeping themselves looking queer...
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